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GTX 295 or 285

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this may seem like a silly question given that the 295 is obviously more powerful than the 285 but correct me if im wrong but the 295 is a technicaly SLI? (hence 2 = quat SLI)

im on a 19" monitor at 1280x1024 resolution and am led to belive SLI only realy shines at higher resolution e.g. 19XX x 16XX etc...

im just wondering given my screen res, and the efectiveness of the 295 in most games, current and near future(given they need SLI support...(or do they?!?)), if the 295 would still out perform the 285 in the majority of games nowdays?
(i am also led to belive that games that dont support SLI would only use one of the 295's GPU cores...equivilent to the GTX 260).

i hope that came out readable :P
 
smeghead666 said:
ok good point...but given all the above, 295 or 285?

lets also take money out of the equation as im just curious :)
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The 295 would probably still be in front but will not be taking full advantage of it's additional power.

If i had to go for one thou i'd pick the 285 becuse its cheaper so you waste less money.

At that resoulution i think the 285 will run into problems running games because of lack of directx 11 or latest shader model before power becomes an issue.
 
New info released on ATi's cards later on today.

Both the 285 and 295 are a waste of money, they may be faster, but for that extra few % in performance you pay over 100% more money.

You could get 2 4890s for cheaper than one GTX285 and they'd be faster than a 295.
 
chaparral said:
The gtx 295 is two gtx 275 cores..
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It's pretty much 2x260's except the 295 has a few more SP's but everything else is the same spec as a 260..

Also to help the OP, I'm currently running 260 SLi at 1920x1200, and that wasn't down to choice a single gtx 260 ran everything I needed with everything maxxed (ArmA 2 was an issue and the only game that really notice a difference), but my original card started getting faults and the retailer I bought it off gave me a huge turnaround and so I bought another card to tie me over. I've also had a lot of niggly faults with some games and SLi, but they've all been sorted now.

My point is.. a 295 at this res still would be far too much (except ArmA 2 etc), so out of the two I would probably get a 285 and save a bit - or alternatively look at ATi offering's.
 
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kylew said:
Which makes it 2x 275s.

A 275 is a 285 GPU on a 260 circuit board.
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I have to say this seems a bit confusing.. the 295 is a bit of a frankenstein in that it's not the same as saying it's 2x XXX's but the most similar performance is 2x260's, a 2x275 SLi setup would stomp on a 295 whereas a 2x260's are pretty much level pegging.

Not sure what this 275 = 285 on a 260 board is about..

295 275 260

240 240 216 SP
80 80 72 TMU
28 28 28 ROP

576 633 576 Core (MHz)
1242 1404 1242 Shaders (MHz)
1998 2268 1998 Memory (MHz)

16.128 17.724 16.128 Pixel Fillrate (GP/s)
46.08 50.6 41.472 Texture Fillrate (GT/s)

111.9 127 111.9 Bandwidth (GiB/s)

So to to answer the OP question of the performance of the 295 if SLi is unavailable, is that of a 260 gtx as 2x260 GTX = GTX 295 performance however I've yet to see a benchie with a crippled 295 so it could be much worse (but I doubt it).

Benchie, which includes a 260 SLi setup and a 295

[EDIT] Bah tried sorting out layout but no good[/EDIT]
 
Deaco said:
I have to say this seems a bit confusing.. the 295 is a bit of a frankenstein in that it's not the same as saying it's 2x XXX's but the most similar performance is 2x260's, a 2x275 SLi setup would stomp on a 295 whereas a 2x260's are pretty much level pegging.

Not sure what this 275 = 285 on a 260 board is about..

295 275 260

240 240 216 SP
80 80 72 TMU
28 28 28 ROP

576 633 576 Core (MHz)
1242 1404 1242 Shaders (MHz)
1998 2268 1998 Memory (MHz)

16.128 17.724 16.128 Pixel Fillrate (GP/s)
46.08 50.6 41.472 Texture Fillrate (GT/s)

111.9 127 111.9 Bandwidth (GiB/s)

So to to answer the OP question of the performance of the 295 if SLi is unavailable, is that of a 260 gtx as 2x260 GTX = GTX 295 performance however I've yet to see a benchie with a crippled 295 so it could be much worse (but I doubt it).

Benchie, which includes a 260 SLi setup and a 295

[EDIT] Bah tried sorting out layout but no good[/EDIT]
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A 275 uses the GPU used in the 285 and puts it on a 260 circuit board.

So instead of the 1GB RAM and 512MB memory interface, it has 896MB RAM and a 448 bit interface.

It's like a cross between a 285 and a 260.

To be honest, a 260 is the same GPU used in any nVidia GTX2XX card except it's just got clusters of shaders disabled.

The GTX295 is 2 x GT275s in terms of hardware, except, the GPUs on it have been down clocked to reduce the power consumption and heat output of the power.
 
'Wes said:
To answer his question, i'd go for a 285.
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Any who buys a 285 is crazy, 2 4890s would stomp all over it for the same money, 2 GTX275s would stomp all over it for a little bit more money.

2 GTX260s would stomp all over it for the same amount of money.

Plus the fact that new cards are being announced today.
 
Get a 260 (under £150) and a new monitor (Dell 2209WA under £200).
Less than 350 quid spent on an actual upgrade that will change your PC experience.
 
yashiro said:
Get a 260 (under £150) and a new monitor (Dell 2209WA under £200).
Less than 350 quid spent on an actual upgrade that will change your PC experience.
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No one should buy anything until we know the prices of ATi's latest, even then they could push the current prices of cards down.
 
For that screen resolution you have, out of a 285 and a 295, then obviously, I would get a 285.

Better still wait to see the new cards out very soon, or if you really cannot wait then get 250 / 260 / 275 / 4850 / 4870 / 4890 - all way powerful enough for that res. My personal considerations out of those beauties would be either a 4890 or a 275.
 
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Get a 295, or better yet, put your money in a bin, poor on some petrol and set it on fire, then while it's going up in flames, dance around it with our pants on a stick shouting.

"I AM A CONSUMERIST MORON"

Buying either a 285 or 295 for a 19" monitor is completely insane.
 
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