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GTX 660TI review

its almost like theres an understanding between amd and nvidia.

SShh...

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You've went and done it now.;)
 
Launch day pricing on 460's was £180-£199
Launch day pricing on 560ti's was £200-230
Launch day pricing on 660ti's is £240-270 (£280 for double VRAM)... and this includes an increase in VAT from both those launches

Seems like business as usual to me :confused:

How many people's salaries have had a similar increase over the same period? That's a 35% increase from the 460 to the 660ti.

My salary hasn't increased at all! I don't see how dramatic price increases like that is "business as usual."

If prices keep going up like this year on year it won't be long before some of us can't afford a graphics card at all!
 
yea its disapointing , i would probably have hung onto my 460 if it didnt die and waited it out some more to see if prices would fall following the 660ti release.

its almost like theres an understanding between amd and nvidia.

nvidia get the high end market and price at whatever they like.
AMD get the low/mid end of the market and get to have overly inflated prices

i can see the same happening with intel beeing able to price there cpus sky high bcause theres not much real high end competition aswell.

They have done since Core2Quad.

Nothing matched the QXs from AMD and nothing has matched the 980X/990X and then socket 2011 extreme processors too. The real high end is ridiculously costly. They must make ridiculous margins on the 'extreme' models.
 
How many people's salaries have had a similar increase over the same period? That's a 35% increase from the 460 to the 660ti.

My salary hasn't increased at all! I don't see how dramatic price increases like that is "business as usual."

If prices keep going up like this year on year it won't be long before some of us can't afford a graphics card at all!

You've had no pay increase at all in 3-4 years? And you still work there? I dish out cost of living increases every year as a matter of course... sure you can try pulling the "economic times" excuse but you warch peoples productivity drop through the floor

Also... launch day pricing... both 460 and 560 fell to around £150 before the next card up was released and I well expect 660 to be under 200 well before christmas
 
once you ignore Nvidia's NDA its not that great....

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforc...-32505-17.html

Not really impressed considering its £20 / £30 more expensive than my card and on average a bit slower.

7970 = 141.3%
GTX 670= 126.5%
7950= 120.5%
7870= 110.7%
GTX 660ti = 107.4%
GTX 580 = 100%

According to the settings we chose on a per-game basis, picked to maximize visual quality at playable frame rates, the GeForce GTX 660 Ti is close to, if not slightly slower than a Radeon HD 7870. We already know this runs counter to Nvidia's expectations, which put the new card between AMD's Radeon HD 7870 and 7950. However, after comparing lab results, the outcome of our testing appears tied to the way we picked settings for each game, likely taxing the 660 Ti's memory bandwidth more than less-demanding options would.

Perhaps our settings favour the Radeon cards. Perhaps theirs favour the GeForce-based boards. And maybe the most real-world outcome lies somewhere in between. But, I believe the truth is that GeForce GTX 660 Ti performs within 5%, plus or minus, of the Radeon HD 7870.
 
No, but then houses have dropped a lot more than £40 in the last 2-3 years too so it's swings and roundabouts... hence why inflation is an average of these things!

Wait, wut? It's OK for gfx card prices to increase 35% in 2 years because house prices have fallen?

I don't get how that works, but OK, you say so...
 
One benefit of these boys arriving is that the price of used GTX580's has taken a serious nosedive, for those who don't mind the 580's noise/power/heat then this can only be a good thing.
 
Wait, wut? It's OK for gfx card prices to increase 35% in 2 years because house prices have fallen?

I don't get how that works, but OK, you say so...

I'm not saying it's "ok" per se, just that inflation is a combination of factors which include market forces...

if people weren't buying these cards at these prices then the prices would drop!
 
its almost like theres an understanding between amd and nvidia

Think most companies will try an avoid a head on collision, for their profits/revenues sake, sometimes it cannot be avoided if performance guesstimate is wrong or just buggy chips. "I think" they design and plan chips to fit certain slots/gaps rather then compete head on, from the get go (Design phase etc). Seems accurate most of the time.

OT
Think we have equal performance chips from both camps in a while, especially in the high end. we see AMD dropped prices much more aggressively, nvidia on the other hand have upped their prices across the board, i suppose - thats what happens when fan-boys go on a mental buying spree without any consideration to the competitor.

In my area, there is 2 shops and 2 markets, believe it or not, i visit all of them, turn by turn (spreading the love/money lol), It keeps them all going if everyone does the same in the area, and keeps them on their toes. The same can be said of AMD/Nvidia, especially when there is only 2 GPU makers. End of rant :)
 
new one from hardocp
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/21/galaxy_geforce_gtx_660_ti_gc_3gb_overclocking_review/4

with this comment;
Editor's Note: For those of you that are interested in OCed 660 vs. OCed 670 vs. OCed7950, keep you panties on, we are working on it currently. We will also be taking a more focused look at 660 vs. 670 memory bandwidth limitations while using AA after that.

HardOCP is a review website I avoid now - after Galaxy started sponsoring them,they went down hill massively.

Plenty of other review websites out there TBH and there is already a review thread for the GTX660TI:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18433152

The mods even changed the name to the official review thread.
 
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HardOCP is a review website I avoid now - after Galaxy started sponsoring them,they went down hill massively.

Plenty of other review websites out there TBH and there is already a review thread for the GTX660TI:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18433152

The mods even changed the name to the official review thread.

Same here. Along with a bit of Corsair as well and the fact Kyle is one of the biggest ***** in the world. Avoid like the plague.
 
Editor's Note: For those of you that are interested in OCed 660 vs. OCed 670 vs. OCed7950, keep you panties on, we are working on it currently. We will also be taking a more focused look at 660 vs. 670 memory bandwidth limitations while using AA after that.

Taking a focused look at the limitations of a 192-bit bus vs a 256bit bus? surely anyone tech savy enough to be interested already knows :P


Plenty of other review websites out there TBH and there is already a review thread for the GTX660TI:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18433152

The mods even changed the name to the official review thread.

TBH they should have just changed the name of this thread instead of creating another one. Perhaps merge the two threads?
 
Taking a focused look at the limitations of a 192-bit bus vs a 256bit bus? surely anyone tech savy enough to be interested already knows :P




TBH they should have just changed the name of this thread instead of creating another one. Perhaps merge the two threads?

plus one, this is the original thread with more posts and more information with less bickering - I'm prefering to use this one

I don't really understand what your obsession is on starting new threads all the time with the same info that's already available
 
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