Guy who fed the kitten to snake is now on the run

ExRayTed · 10 Jun 2012 at 09:14

paradisiac said:
or just lock him up in isolation until he dies?

i agree he will never be stable enough to be trusted to be let loose, but death is not the answer.
also, if he is in isolation, it gives people a chance to study him, and maybe learn about certain tell tale clues (prior to the animal killing) as to what makes him act the way he does and with this evidence stop it happening in future.

You say 'death is not the answer' like there is a problem here that needs solving? There isn't. He's an amoral sociopath with delusions of grandeur. Locking someone up in isolation forever is arguably worse as it could increase suffering. Studying him? To what end? He's no better / worse than any of the twisted individuals before him.

To stop this happening in the future requires that the evidence be acted on next time. I agree that killing him wouldn't help anyone else, but I'd still be happy for it to happen.

paradisiac · 10 Jun 2012 at 09:26

ExRayTed said:
You say 'death is not the answer' like there is a problem here that needs solving? There isn't. He's an amoral sociopath with delusions of grandeur. Locking someone up in isolation forever is arguably worse as it could increase suffering. Studying him? To what end? He's no better / worse than any of the twisted individuals before him.

To stop this happening in the future requires that the evidence be acted on next time. I agree that killing him wouldn't help anyone else, but I'd still be happy for it to happen.

and i believe we should have studied those people too, and acted on what we had learnt.
as time goes on, our understanding of conditions, and ways of testing for patterns and things becomes more advanced. from this continuing to study people with a clear mental problem is the only way to learn how to spot it sooner, and how to deal with it.

bobo696 · 10 Jun 2012 at 10:54

sickening

Brookert · 10 Jun 2012 at 11:04

Tombo said:
Yep, the death penalty would bring the person he killed back...sigh.

Purdy · 10 Jun 2012 at 12:18

paradisiac said:
and what do you tell the familes of those that suffered the death penalty that were then proven to be wrongly sentanced, and in fact it wasnt them that commited the crime?
killing is killing however you look at it. the death penalty helps no one. they have it in some states of america and yet crime hasnt dropped. it doesnt act as a deterant and it wont wipe out evil.

Saves us money though, also if completely conclusive you have taken someones life for no reason other than just murder not sure why you should be allowed to live.

JimAroo · 10 Jun 2012 at 13:55

The only time the death penalty should be used is in extreme cases like this, if there is any doubt then it shouldn't be used.

Efour · 10 Jun 2012 at 13:58

hot.

What a nut job, hope he doesn't get out of jail and some nasty Canadian psycho inmates play "pretend hes a kitten on him"

paradisiac · 10 Jun 2012 at 14:11

Purdy said:
Saves us money though, also if completely conclusive you have taken someones life for no reason other than just murder not sure why you should be allowed to live.

but does that not make us just as bad as them? who are we to decide who lives and dies.

Mark A · 10 Jun 2012 at 14:25

If we killed people for fun and filmed it, it would make us as bad as them.

paradisiac · 10 Jun 2012 at 14:33

Mark A said:
If we killed people for fun and filmed it, it would make us as bad as them.

but some people have said they they would be happy to watch him get killed, is that not the same? they might not be comitting the killing, but want to watch the suffering?
and why do we have the right to take someones life against their will, but we wont kill someone terminally ill that requests it?

Van Hellseek · 10 Jun 2012 at 14:36

The Sun... USA edition? said:
- We alerted cops

Cops?

Really?

lcg · 10 Jun 2012 at 14:52

Muzza1875 said:
I noticed it too, i wonder if they are gonna bring up violent games as the cause of his lunacy.

The Daily Mail has done that now.

Canadian 'Cannibal killer' suspect Magnotta is also believed to have been inspired by a violent video game starring Christopher Walken as a futuristic serial killer called Vince Magnotta who is addicted to butchering his victims.

Hollywood actor Walken starred in the 1996 video game Ripper, a gruesome adventure which sees a brutal serial killer terrorising New York in the year 2040.

The game can have a number of different endings depending on the path the player follows and although the Vince Magnotta character is ostensibly a police officer investigating the murders, one outcome sees him as the 'Ripper'.

The game begins with the serial killer sending an email to a newspaper saying he is addicted to butchering his victims.

In a chilling similarity, Luka Magnotta, who changed his name from Eric Clinton Newman in 2006, is understood to have sent an email to a British newspaper in which he wrote: 'I can't stop killing'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wman-pictured-years-grew-cannibal-killer.html

cm1179 · 10 Jun 2012 at 15:31

yay. absoloute weirdo. he'll be somebodies prag inside.

^TANK^ · 10 Jun 2012 at 15:43

cm1179 said:
yay. absoloute weirdo. he'll be somebodies prag inside.

I don't think he'll be too fussed to be honest as he already enjoys tossing gentleman's salads dead or alive lol.

snave · 10 Jun 2012 at 15:46

It's not really shocking he committed a violent crime. Torturing animals is a hallmark of psychopathic behavior and most serial killers will start with animals.

Also not shocking that somehow a video game is being blamed somehow. I've been playing super mario 3 today so BRB going to jump on some turtles and bang my head against some blocks.

Tombo · 10 Jun 2012 at 16:46

George Hincapie said:
Are you really that dense?

It's not about 'bringing someone back', it's about preventing that persom committing any further offences, while freeing the population of the tax burden of keeping them locked up. If someone can't be rehabilitated or trusted then they can never be released.

Are you really that dense? :rolleyes:

The death penalty isn't any cheaper.

shawsy109 · 10 Jun 2012 at 16:49

I saw this video the other day. Being EX british army i have seen some stuff in my time, but that video, hardcore, the most hardcore of anything ive seen.

semi-pro waster · 10 Jun 2012 at 16:57

George Hincapie said:
Are you really that dense?

It's not about 'bringing someone back', it's about preventing that persom committing any further offences, while freeing the population of the tax burden of keeping them locked up. If someone can't be rehabilitated or trusted then they can never be released.

Purdy said:
Saves us money though, also if completely conclusive you have taken someones life for no reason other than just murder not sure why you should be allowed to live.

This is somewhat at a tangent to the thread topic but the death penalty isn't cheaper than life imprisonment based on the evidence from the U.S. penitentiary system. If you want it because it appeals to you on a moral level then that's up to you but it's not worth it as a cost saving measure.

Mark A · 10 Jun 2012 at 17:19

As long as people like this are removed from society I don't really care what happens to them. But from a lot of comments I have read, people seem to be suggesting that Canadian jail is like a holiday camp and that the most he will see is 10 years. I hope this isn't the case.

I have just read that the US police are looking into a few cold cases that could be linked to this guy so maybe he will get longer and go to a US jail?