Have I got a dodgy EK block?

What pump are you using? Could be it doesn't have enough pressure to push the coolant maybe. Although I doubt that could be it.

I ran a loop using just the DC2.2 pump that comes with the 240 LTX kit, basically to see if the Mayhem fluid would work I used about 5 inches of hosing from the CPU block to the pump and 5 from the pump to the CPU block and that is all I put in my loop to test it so the pressure should be almost as high as it would get.

How many times have you had the block actually on the cpu in order to test temps? Just the once? My gut feeling is that it may have been a mounting issue rather than a faulty block, and the appearance of the flow has been a red herring. However, if you have had the block on the mobo more than once and it's done the same then that would kind of rule that out.

Yeh mate, that was my first thing I thought I hadn't tightened the screws enough on the mounting bracket, I've got through an entire tube of thermal paste the amount of times I've mounted and demounted this thing.

Is there any other blocks in the loop?
What is your pump?

No just the CPU block, SUPREME LTX

All the pastel colour will stain because they use a lot of dye but it should just wipe off all so its a nano fluid so will get into every thing. If you going to use pastel it is ment for long term use 2+ years so chaining out you tubing seems a bit pointless.

P.s All the pastel colour have been tested on over 13 different types of blocks (weve sold over 5,000+ Ltrs of this with no complaints) and it works with every thing the partial size is 40 to 60nm so unless you can get channels smaller than that i doubt it. All so they don't clog so again i doubt it.

Unfortunately the evidence seems to suggest otherwise, DI + EK UV BLUE = Flows through the entire block, Mayhem Pastel Sunset Yellow = only 10/20% of the block works and I imagine you've seen the pictures above too. I took the block apart once last night and put it back together after that I ran both solutions and only one of them worked properly. I guess, you could consider this the first complaint?

If I remember right the seal for the waterblock is for EK covering leaks of the blocks not other flaws. So even if you have removed the seal if the fault is something else they should still help.


I messaged EK again last night saying that eventually the blue dye solution managed to run through the block. I got a response this morning with them saying they will send out a replacement copper block if I return the one I have so they can test it. (Its a little bit scratched from all the fondling I did :O, I'd be embarassed to return that... mirror shine, not quite lol.

Warranty sticker is just to confirm EK have tested it for leaks and warranted for Leaks!
Even if you remove that sticker, that shouldn't invalidate the warranty on the product itself.
Stripping Hex keys is not alien to EK, I have stripped 2 in the past and have even got replacements from EK and Koolance(I just had to pay postage). I asked for the correct size of the thread and ordered some from the famous auction site, as I couldn't wait for 5 days.

Interesting, I've had a history of threading bolts and screw heads, on my downhill bike I've got a pair of twisted marzocchi forks sitting in the garage because one of the bolts is threaded and they're now twisted due to an impact and since I can't undo that bolt I can't straighten them out :(

I guess for now I will hold onto the mayhem pastel and if I get another block in the future I will try it on that, like I said I would have preferred the yellow but now I'm tempted to just order white PVC hoses and go for a clear liquid or even just run this blue liquid.
 
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Ill take it as a compliant no problem and we will look into this further i have the same block sitting in-front of me how ever as said we haven't seen this in our testing but i don't mind if you disagree. I love the challenge :)
 
looking at the coolent running through my block i can see where your coming from i think.. i have been running mayhems for about 3 months now and havent noticed anything wrong. i would myself say its a block fault. whats the diff between the LTX and the HF?
 
Ill take it as a compliant no problem and we will look into this further i have the same block sitting in-front of me how ever as said we haven't seen this in our testing but i don't mind if you disagree. I love the challenge :)

As it stands it doesn't seem to flow properly in my block, though I will hopefully get a replacement from EK and I can test it with that as well.

Don't you do any sort of yellow dye?
 
looking at the coolent running through my block i can see where your coming from i think.. i have been running mayhems for about 3 months now and havent noticed anything wrong. i would myself say its a block fault. whats the diff between the LTX and the HF?

I have no idea, Honestly I do hope it is the blocks fault because I really enjoy the aesthetics of the Pastel yellow on my Sabertooth z77 board. I'm kinda hoping EK will send out the block before I have to send mine back because I can at least do wit ha poor performing block than no block.
 
example of pc running there pastel purple..

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you can see the whole block fills up.. so i cant see it being the coolent thats causing problems tbh!
 
example of pc running there pastel purple..


you can see the whole block fills up.. so i cant see it being the coolent thats causing problems tbh!

See above, an example with a PC where the pastel isn't filling up the block. There are two sides here, I'm not putting the definitive blame on the Mayhem solution but it is certainly going that way in my case!

Also that is a different block, though if mlwood37 is telling the truth that they've sold 5,000 units and not had a single complaint yet then that certainly makes you question what is at fault. Though I'll summarise...

Setup(Mayhem)/Dismantled/Cleaned/Setup(mayhem)/Dismantled/Cleaned/Mini Loop(mayhem)/Dismantled/Cleaned/EKBLUE/Worked/Dismantled/Setup full loop(EK)/Worked.

So as far as this case goes the fluid appears to be the culprit, though like I said after talking with EK they said they will send out a replacement copper base and hopefully I will test that and hopefully see different results.
 
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the only thing that i can think is that your block is not the high flow varient and therefor isnt alowing the fluid to flow as it should? will be interesting to see the results the new block yeild!
 
My Guess is you have an air lock in the loop right in the block, When the loop is full you should lay the case flat once or twice to allow the air to flow back to the res.

The loop has spent more time being built and used outside my case where I can freely move it around than it has actually inside my case.


the only thing that i can think is that your block is not the high flow varient and therefor isnt alowing the fluid to flow as it should? will be interesting to see the results the new block yeild!

This is all speculation but from visually looking at the two liquids the Mayhems looks like it has a higher viscosity than the DI + EK Dye. Perhaps if the block has some form of deformity that those combined causes it to come to a grinding stop inside the block.
 
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jallan Yes mayhems Pastel is slightly higher in viscosity then di water + dye. How ever should not effect the block you have a very unusual problem.

All so yes we have a new yellow dye coming out very soon.

I don't think you blaming any one btw i think you've pointed out a vaild issue and tonight ill load up my system with the block and see if the same happens. To me there is no issue just maybe a compatibility issue and if there is we will let people and re-sellers know and look further into reducing the viscosity of the liquids.

This is the best we can do for the moment. As for the amount weve sold its actually more than that but i do not keep records of sales only the amount i make. Sales are done via my partner and normally some thing i like to get involved with.
 
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jallan Yes mayhems Pastel is slightly higher in viscosity then di water + dye. How ever should not effect the block you have a very unusual problem.

All so yes we have a new yellow dye coming out very soon.

I don't think you blaming any one btw i think you've pointed out a vaild issue and tonight ill load up my system with the block and see if the same happens. To me there is no issue just maybe a compatibility issue and if there is we will let people and re-sellers know and look further into reducing the viscosity of the liquids.

This is the best we can do for the moment. As for the amount weve sold its actually more than that but i do not keep records of sales only the amount i make. Sales are done via my partner and normally some thing i like to get involved with.

Yeh I just want you to know I'm not bashing your product or brand but just in this scenario it doesn't seem to be complimenting each other. Hopefully EK will get a move on and it was a surprise to see them offer a new copper base in exchange of mine so I can test with that straight away if it ever arrives.

Will the yellow dye be of a similar appearance to the pastel yellow?
 
Well we tested last night again , no problems found what so ever im afraid to say. The liquids goes though as expected. So you problem i would say doesn't lye with our liquids.

AS for the yellow its the same yellow used in pastel yellow how ever it will not look the same in just water as it doesn't have a white background.
 
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