Why would resign from the Union?, not being a Rep I can understand as it take a lot of time, but resigning your membership as well?
Did you, like me have to due to conflict with a new position?
Have students actually got anything to complain about?
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Why would resign from the Union?, not being a Rep I can understand as it take a lot of time, but resigning your membership as well?
Did you, like me have to due to conflict with a new position?
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No, more unsatisfied about certain policies (local and national) of my chosen Union. Unite have presence in our area but I'm not sure I want to join them either.
IMO there are too many sepreate Unions in this country - I'd like to see some of the large ones amalgamate (PCS + Unite, All transport unions etc) and then have dedicated branches for specific workplaces/environments. That's never going happen though due to the national execs of each union cementing thier positions in thier ivory castles.
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Yes actually, the immediate post war period makes the present look like a time of milk and honey. I'm not seeing many ration cards being printed today.
We were so badly off that the shipping and industrial capacity we had left was franticly exporting, at the expense of all domestic needs. To the extent that imported goods didn't come of ration until well after the war due to the lack of cash / balance of payments crisis. That and withdrawing from the Empire as fast as we could.
I'd agree with the amalgamation of Unions into sector specific entities. I also can not ever see that happening, like you say the Executives of the respective unions have too much to lose individually.
Leaving the union membership is a bit drastic however, just the legal, disciplinary and advisory protections union membership give you should be worth the £4 or so subs each week surely.
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I'm not in mine out of principal. Not against them in particular, but as a whole.
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We'll see, I've recieved a few email flurries over the whole situation today - might resolve itself by the end of the week.
For now though - I'm "unionless".
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Can they do this? I reckon that this will just encourage more people to demonstrate.
Thats it, let hard workers pay for YOUR education despite you earning more than them in 5 years time. How about tese Students don't expect something for nothing just like all these whinging council house owners.
Move to America and get an education if you don't like it.
Move to America and get an education if you don't like it.
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But if they will be earning more they will also be paying back more in tax which will be used for services that these "hard workers" will use.
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The issue is why they can afford to spend so much on luxury items, and still complain about getting into debt over tution fees.
It seems they're happy to get into debt for luxury, but when it comes to getting into debt for their education it's a different story.
If debt is so terrible then why do they all run themselves into so much debt with their ridiculous idea of what they think they 'deserve' from a student lifestyle?
It seems they're happy to get into debt for luxury, but when it comes to getting into debt for their education it's a different story.
If debt is so terrible then why do they all run themselves into so much debt with their ridiculous idea of what they think they 'deserve' from a student lifestyle?
Stop tarring all students with the same brush. When I was a student, I had no financial support. I was living off my overdraft and part-time job. My loan covered rent and I had another loan to cover my fees. Fieldwork was paid through my overdraft (this was mandatory). If I wanted to eat or clothe myself, I worked. On a weekly basis, I was often finishing work at 4am, getting to sleep for 5am and dragging myself to a long day of lectures starting at 9am. It's not the easy silver-spoon life for everyone seek, so stop assuming it is. I know lots of students who worked their backsides off just so they could eat and have a social life. I also know students who'd never done a day's work, drove a nice car and wanted for nothing because mummy and daddy paid for it all. There is a divide of wealth at university and there always will be dependant on relative's financial support. Those 'students' who ran out and bought themselves Nintendo Wiis when they were in fashion were also the same students who didn't pay rent. To them, the student loan was still a set sum, the same as everyone else. The difference is, for some, they don't have to pay for X, so they spend it on Y instead.
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No, it's completely fair to say that most students waste a huge chunk of their loan on things they don't need, such as what was listed in the OP. It's generalising yes, but it's a fair generalisation.
I know this because I've lived with ~30 of them when I was in southampton (not all at the same time of course). So I know damn well how they live and what their attitudes to what they think they're 'owed' are.
I know this because I've lived with ~30 of them when I was in southampton (not all at the same time of course). So I know damn well how they live and what their attitudes to what they think they're 'owed' are.
And of course, your 30 completely moots the hundreds that I knew and the ~30 that I lived with...
Southampton is just one university. It will attract a certain threshold of students due to its locality, ranking and other factors. There is no single 'type' of student. Get that in your head.
Generalisations are never fair; it's the whole point why we've had paradigm shifts away from reductionist approaches in the sciences. If you're using generalisations as nothing more than an indication, then you need to accept that you're attempting to quantify something inherently unquantifiable. You're heavily blurring the edges to get the most rough of indications; when you're looking through a blurred lens you are never getting the true picture. Even still, the only trend for students you'll find is that of a Gaussian curve with the 'average' student - that being little, to no financial support - in the middle. Tailing off on either side you'll have the silver-spooners and the hardship funds. This 'entitlement' has nothing to do with being a student, and everything to do with the individual.
But you of course were different?
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So what kind of student were you?
I've known students with money and those without, One of my friends used his last £30 to buy a CD burner instead of food, I ended up feeding him for 3 months....
Another budgeted everything to the last penny and paid off his student loan the day he graduated.
I love 'em both and it's horses for courses, we are all different and what we have to complain about is entirely subjective.
Another budgeted everything to the last penny and paid off his student loan the day he graduated.
I love 'em both and it's horses for courses, we are all different and what we have to complain about is entirely subjective.
I'm doing some events catering work here and there, but I'm applying for some more jobs in January.
My parents are helping me out this year, not so much next year.
You do understand that there are probably more students who cannot afford those things you listed right?
The reason you feel this way is probably because seeing money being spent is more obvious then seeing money being saved.