HELP! bit of a long shot "contravening the white line"

D4VE said:
whats a TS20 then?
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something that adds £100 to your insurance thats what!! :mad:

I hope the ******* copper is happy, I was only about 3 inches into the solid line, there was nothing dangerous about it. Plonker!!

Sorry rant over, this is going to cost me a fortune in the next 5 years!!
 
Oakesy2001uk said:
something that adds £100 to your insurance thats what!! :mad:

I hope the ******* copper is happy, I was only about 3 inches into the solid line, there was nothing dangerous about it. Plonker!!

Sorry rant over, this is going to cost me a fortune in the next 5 years!!
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The white line is there for a reason.
 
Oakesy2001uk said:
something that adds £100 to your insurance thats what!! :mad:

I hope the ******* copper is happy, I was only about 3 inches into the solid line, there was nothing dangerous about it. Plonker!!

Sorry rant over, this is going to cost me a fortune in the next 5 years!!
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Not trying to sound all high and mighty, but if you do an break the law, no matter how big or small the margin is, then you can't exactly complain when you get caught.
I've been caught 3 times speeding and each time I've taken it on the chin and accepted responsiblity, and at one point having 9 points on your licence puts more than an extra £100 on your policy!
 
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When I'm on the bike I'm finding I have to make an extra check for the start of the white lines as I overtake before a corner. Lines are supposed to be there to show you where the bend is tight and where you have limited sight lines. Places where I can easily make a safe pass and see miles through the bend (because I can move about in the lane) I find have lines where I don't need them. It's because the lines are set for cars, so they seem like the start very early when you're on the bike. It's a favorite pull for the police though, a hard and fast way to show you broke the rules.
 
dale1uk said:
Not trying to sound all high and mighty, but if you do an break the law, no matter how big or small the margin is, then you can't exactly complain when you get caught.
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Yes you can. Fortunately it's still a relatively free country so complaining is not yet an offence.

dale1uk said:
I've been caught 3 times speeding and each time I've taken it on the chin and accepted responsiblity, and at one point having 9 points on your licence puts more than an extra £100 on your policy!
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Sounds like someone needs to work on their observation skills. Or slow down.
 
Guigsy said:
When I'm on the bike I'm finding I have to make an extra check for the start of the white lines as I overtake before a corner. Lines are supposed to be there to show you where the bend is tight and where you have limited sight lines. Places where I can easily make a safe pass and see miles through the bend (because I can move about in the lane) I find have lines where I don't need them. It's because the lines are set for cars, so they seem like the start very early when you're on the bike. It's a favorite pull for the police though, a hard and fast way to show you broke the rules.
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Exactly, any other bike will know what I'm on about, this was a safe overtake.
I overtook in a place which was 100% safe to get past something twice the cars legnth (I dont overtake otherwise), and didn't see the white line changing to solid, which it had done by the time I pulled in. I was not speeding and was in my opinion riding well.
Unfortunately an undercover copper thaught I was murdering children so he gave me £60 and 3 points. Ignoring the th fact that I got pulled out on by gypsies in a transit very dangerously 1/2 a mile before hand whilst he was still following me. It was a sunday morning on a known bikers road, I think he was there with a mission to get bikers somehow!

If I do something dangerous then fair do's copper book me. If I'm daft enough to not see a scamera, then again fair do's (grudgeingly). But most coppers would have seen common sense there and realised I was doing nothing dangerous surely! Or are there no decent ones left!
 
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Dogbreath said:
Yes you can. Fortunately it's still a relatively free country so complaining is not yet an offence.



Sounds like someone needs to work on their observation skills. Or slow down.
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All of these points are very true. And whilst speed limits are set for a reason so are solid white lines ;)
 
problem is that even though it may of been safe to everyone elses and in your own opinion, it wasnt safe in the eyes fo the person that decided where to put the lines down or to the policeman who stopped you.

Other than arguing your case, theres not really a lot you can do other than take it like a man!
 
The proliferation of double white lines is doing nobody any good, infact, its downright DANGEROUS.

Double white lines used to signify areas where you could not overtake due to a hazard you may overlook. You’d find them, for example, along roads with hidden deeps – a quick glance shows a clear road, but the dip ahead hides a car.

Now, they seem to put them absolutely anywhere you shouldn’t overtake, for example, corners. This is all very well but it leads to the more stupid people on our roads, and there are plenty, thinking its 100% bad to overtake on double white lines and 100% good to overtake where there isn’t any. After all, if it wasn’t safe, why wasn’t there a double yellow line?

So we now get morons overtaking in stupid areas because ‘There wasn’t any double white lines’.

What happened to thinking for yourself regarding whether its clear enough? Why do we need double white lines in areas where there are clear hazards? It’s for unclear hazards!
 
The A422 from Kidderminster to Telford is an excellent bikers road. It's got brilliant bends and dips, great fun and you can stop half way at the cafe at Bridgnorth for a can of pop where there can be a hundred of so bikes parked up. Unfortunately the end near Kiddy has a section with continuous white lines for a couple of miles. The road is wide and smooth, but it's got trees on both sides and the some of the bends are quite tight, but there are straights between which is really frustrating. It's too easy to get caught behind a slow car that you can easily pass with tens of meters to spare, but you can't because of the lines... 9 times out of 10 it ruins your run.. :(
 
Guigsy said:
The A422 from Kidderminster to Telford is an excellent bikers road. It's got brilliant bends and dips, great fun and you can stop half way at the cafe at Bridgnorth for a can of pop where there can be a hundred of so bikes parked up. Unfortunately the end near Kiddy has a section with continuous white lines for a couple of miles. The road is wide and smooth, but it's got trees on both sides and the some of the bends are quite tight, but there are straights between which is really frustrating. It's too easy to get caught behind a slow car that you can easily pass with tens of meters to spare, but you can't because of the lines... 9 times out of 10 it ruins your run.. :(
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Exactly what I'm talking about.

on 75% of occaisons there are there because it is unsafe to cross them, I agree 100% Unfortunately in some cases they are way to early or just plain shouldent be there. It was not dangerous, and the lines were broken when I began to overtake, they just got solid literally just as I was pulling back in. If I'd have cut up the driver or pinned the throttle I would have got in before.

Anyway, thanks for getting me the code I needed guys, and thanks to those who understood what happened! everyone else can call me a child killer if you like but I shan't really take much notice :-)
 
Can someone please explain how white lines are "meant" to look?

I know what they look like... but they tend to be either side of the cats eyes... On one of the roads out of my town the markings have been changed.. There's a bit of a hill, with a junction halfway up it. A kind of ghost island in the middle of the road, for people to sit in if they're wanting to turn right into the junction, as they're coming down the hill.

Until recently (before the markings were repainted) The boundary markings of said island were done in broken white lines, with a good few inches of no paint either side of the cats eyes (which also follow the outline of the island) Now, there's no clear areas, instead of paint | space | cats eye | space | paint ...

it's paint | cats eye | paint | cats eye ...

THEN about 3/4 up the hill, after the ghost island and junction, the line goes back to single broken, then 20 yards later solid white line starts on the uphill side of the road, and continues over the brow and for another 20 yards or so. The other side of the road still has broken white line (the kind you'd expect on the other side of the road normally when one side has solid white line).

Loads of other roads in the local area have "No overtaking" signs, big ones at certain ghost island/junction areas, but then again, loads don't.

There's a bit of a bend a hundred yards or so after the top/bottom of the hill, but they're just marked with normal single broken line.

Loads of people, me included use this hill for overtaking if it's safe to do so. There aren't many other places to overtake on the road, even though it has the bends, the visibility's good enough to see far enough ahead - if there are no cars in view, then it's safe to overtake. Generally you'd be overtaking some tool driving at 40mph.

How would the law stand on this one? I'm ashamed to say I'm not sure if overtaking at a junction is flat out illegal, or just potentially hazardous. The junction isn't a busy one, maybe 5 cars a day would use it - it goes off to some random houses.

Why would they go broken > solid (ghost island) > broken > solid/broken (just before brow of hill)?

It's "safe" to overtake either going up or downhill.

Hope this made some sense, I'll try and provide an mspaint image later on if not.
 
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