Help on new Ryzen build.

[Russell Price]

Going for a new build after some years away from PC gaming. Looking to go for a high performance system that can play both games at high level and have the headroom to stream/record gameplay. Looking at going for a 1440p monitor, 144/166hz.

Build:

CPU - Ryzen 1700: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-39x-am.html

CPU Cooler - NZXT X62 Kraken: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/nzxt-kraken-x62-aio-water-cooling-unit-280mm-hs-01c-nx.html

Motherboard - Asus Strix X370-f: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-69w-as.html

RAM - G.Skill 3200 (16GB): https://www.overclockers.co.uk/g.sk...channel-kit-f4-3200c14d-16gtzr-my-10c-gs.html

GPU - Asus Strix 1080ti OC: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-410-as.html

Case - NZXT S340 Elite: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/nzxt-source-340-elite-midi-tower-case-black-ca-186-nx.html

PSU - Corsair 750W: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...lar-power-supply-cp-9020092-uk-ca-210-cs.html

Was planning on going with the Ryzen 1700 then Overclocking it, but I have seen some forum posts/videos suggesting that the 1700x will overclock better, is there any truth in that?

I see there is also a lot of talk around memory use and Ryzen. Am I going to have any issues going with the 3200 G.Skill?

Other than that I am open to any general advice/suggestions on compatibility or potential alternative parts that would better suit my preference.

 

[TallPaul1878]

Consider the Team Group brand DDR4 memory that they sell here unless you really really want those G. Skill RGB modules.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...nnel-kit-black-grey-tdpgd416g3-my-076-tg.html

My logic is that saving a few quid on things here and there like the RAM, maybe drop the X62 for a good air cooler and you can get a bigger SSD or M.2 drive.

That said, the X62 and those G.Skill modules are real purdy.

 

[StarShock]

Hello, the 1700x does on average clock slightly better than the 1700, but usually only 100 or so MHz so it makes very little difference. The ryzen CPUs do see a performance boost with higher clocked ram, but it can be hit or miss with faster than 3200 ram, as to if you'll get the advertised speed, that being said its gotten a lot better with the recent bios updates. And faster rated ram would still work, it just might have to be clocked down a bit.

 

[Danny75]

Consider the Team Group brand DDR4 memory that they sell here unless you really really want those G. Skill RGB modules.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...nnel-kit-black-grey-tdpgd416g3-my-076-tg.html

My logic is that saving a few quid on things here and there like the RAM, maybe drop the X62 for a good air cooler and you can get a bigger SSD or M.2 drive.

That said, the X62 and those G.Skill modules are real purdy.

Reason that one is so expensive is that OcUK is currently only stocking 3200MHz (or faster) G.Skill RGB with very tight timings (CAS 14 for the 3200MHz kit). There are 3000MHz CAS 15 G.Skill RGB and Corsair RGB kits for less than that particular TeamGroup Dark Pro kit.

 

[EsaT]

Going for a new build after some years away from PC gaming. Looking to go for a high performance system that can play both games at high level and have the headroom to stream/record gameplay.

Streaming/recording benefits from more CPU cores so that game's execution threads don't have to share CPU core time with other tasks.
So at least until Intel gets its pants cleaned from all that spilled coffee and Coffee Lake out AMD's desktop platform has better capabilities for that.

As for trying to get big clock speed increases manufacturing process forms major clock speed wall in there for Ryzen.
So unless you're just trying to make lots of heat for small extra it's better to aim for reasonable overclocking.
And good air cooler half the price of that water cooler will keep Ryzen cooled when you stay inside that reasonable overclocking range.

PSU - Corsair 750W: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...lar-power-supply-cp-9020092-uk-ca-210-cs.html

You can get Super Flower for good amount less than that Corsair.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/supe...old-modular-power-supply-black-ca-05c-sf.html
In fact Platinum efficiency Super Flower is cheaper.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/supe...us-platinum-power-supply-black-ca-040-sf.html

Assuming you're going to play some FPS games and such how's that other part of game immersion, aka audio?

 

[Russell Price]

Consider the Team Group brand DDR4 memory that they sell here unless you really really want those G. Skill RGB modules.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...nnel-kit-black-grey-tdpgd416g3-my-076-tg.html

My logic is that saving a few quid on things here and there like the RAM, maybe drop the X62 for a good air cooler and you can get a bigger SSD or M.2 drive.

That said, the X62 and those G.Skill modules are real purdy.

Pretty keen on the G.Skill Rgb ram however I was looking at 16gb, 3200mhz, CAS16, at £164. Now sure how much the timings come into things and if it would have a noticeable impact.

 

[Russell Price]

Hello, the 1700x does on average clock slightly better than the 1700, but usually only 100 or so MHz so it makes very little difference. The ryzen CPUs do see a performance boost with higher clocked ram, but it can be hit or miss with faster than 3200 ram, as to if you'll get the advertised speed, that being said its gotten a lot better with the recent bios updates. And faster rated ram would still work, it just might have to be clocked down a bit.

The current difference in price between the 1700 and 1700x I'm looking at is £46, you think I'm better off going with the 1700 and going for a higher stable overclock?

 

[StarShock]

The current difference in price between the 1700 and 1700x I'm looking at is £46, you think I'm better off going with the 1700 and going for a higher stable overclock?

Yeah, I think if you're overclocking you're better off saving a few pennies and buying the 1700. I have a 1700x and my brother the 1700 and at the same clock they perform identically. And the stock cooler that comes with the 1700 is actually pretty decent, about as good as any air cooler you'd get at the £20 mark, so could save some pennies there as well