I own and have extensively used the MSR Hubba Hubba HP+, very good tent that has easily survived 60MPH winds, 2 feet of snow, pouring rain, lots of trekking. A great design, very spacious one person, comfortable for 2 people relative to some tiny cramped tings you can get. Not extremely light but you get much more weather resistance than the basic shelters. saying that the overlap of the outer shell to the inner is not massive so with strong wind and snow some snow can get blown into the inner tent. Then again, it is not designed for winter expeditions.
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I own and have extensively used the MSR Hubba Hubba HP+, very good tent that has easily survived 60MPH winds, 2 feet of snow, pouring rain, lots of trekking. A great design, very spacious one person, comfortable for 2 people relative to some tiny cramped tings you can get. Not extremely light but you get much more weather resistance than the basic shelters. saying that the overlap of the outer shell to the inner is not massive so with strong wind and snow some snow can get blown into the inner tent. Then again, it is not designed for winter expeditions.
Rough camping?
Think I'm going to just do it. Need to wait for new work rosta and see which week I can get 8-9days of with the least AL. Train tickets to and from aren't to bad either.
Need to get my new boots broken in have to spend the next few weeks doing some shortish walks.
yeah, few nights camping. I didn't check but I suspect there are sites on route and I'd probably book a small B&B for the last night. Should be do-able in 5days fairly easily. Train looks fairly cheap for me as well, less than £45 at least. May do the same and find a week/couple of mates this summer to do this. Let us know how you get on if/when you do it.
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Anybody that has done Ben Nevis, how difficult exactly is it?
There's a group of about ten of us going up at the end of July, mixed group, and the girls are starting to panic.
How steep exactly is it, and how long should we expect it to take? Online sites wildly vary in their estimates, it's difficult to know what to expect.
There's a group of about ten of us going up at the end of July, mixed group, and the girls are starting to panic.
How steep exactly is it, and how long should we expect it to take? Online sites wildly vary in their estimates, it's difficult to know what to expect.
Where have you made the assumption I'm only going out for a night or two? I'm looking for a tent to carry with other lightweight gear for multi day trips with enough space for two people. Usually I cover about 15-20 miles a day and like to keep my pack below around 10kg dry (inc. several kg of photographic equipment).
The size is the reason I'm not interested in the superlightweight skinny ones like the Helium 200 and a few of the others suggested here because they are too small. The likes of the ones I've mentioned are a few hundred grams heavier but much more spacious. Height is only an issue because many tents are only around 200 cm long and the ends droop, the real skinny tents are also odd shapes whereas the likes of the Lightwave, Hilly and MSR are rectangular and wider, plenty space for two (having tried about 6 tents, from the helium 200 to the Hilly, with both of us in them). I'd be fine with a helium but the GF wants some more space, all I want is an upgrade from the tarp I'm using now...
Besides for various reasons we will get a significant discount on any of these tents... There is no way I'm paying £530 for a tent for example!
Cool, how tall are you if I may ask? One of my worries is being 6"2 I end up pressing the end of my sleeping bag against the inner and the fly making all wet.. I think there is enough space but interested to know if you're that tall and don't have an issue.
Soldato
Anyone up for an adventure 8th-14th July? I have that week off work, but my wife hasn't, so I am considering some sort of adventure on my own, or with someone else if anyone fancies it?
I'm not sure where to go yet, but I'm thinking 80-120 miles in Scotland somewhere with wildcamping (The more remote and wilder the better)?
I'm not sure where to go yet, but I'm thinking 80-120 miles in Scotland somewhere with wildcamping (The more remote and wilder the better)?
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I own an MSR Hubba Hubba HP, and have used it for a good few years now. Always slept in it on my own and found it easy roomy enough. 17 stone and 6.2
Done a few wild camps with it and the first half of the Coast to Coast "Lakes half". Last year I used it on the Mongol Rally and slept every where you could imagine in it. Deserts, Mountains,Steppe, camp sites all all over the place.
Lived in it for around 5 weeks. It was luxury fella. When we got to Kaz, Uzbek and Mongolia I never used the outer. And with the mesh roof it was awesome just laying down in there looking up at the night sky with trillions of stars.. Awesome tent and never had a problem in any weather. just never been out in snow yet.
Wild camp top of Old Man of Coniston
Wild camp top of Old Man of Coniston
Wild camp top of Old Man of Coniston
Wild camp top of Old Man of Coniston
Mongolia, Steppe middle of no where
Clearance from the ground is ok and very adjustable with pull down tensioners. it looks high on the Coniston summit pictures but that place was rocky and hilly as anything. managed to find a spot just large enough to pitch close to the cairn and looking across at Dow Crag..
Awesome... I think you and D.P. have just sold me on that!
Now next question as I'm here... lightweight 2/3 sleeping bag recommendations. Reasonably priced (up to around £150) and packs down small? I'm currently using an Alpkit skyehigh 600 when it's cold and a Mountain Hardware Lamina 35 for the summer months. Unfortunately the Lamina is disappearing... It's not actually mine and my mother needs it for a year around the world... Before I just buy another Lamina 35 any other recommendations?
Now next question as I'm here... lightweight 2/3 sleeping bag recommendations. Reasonably priced (up to around £150) and packs down small? I'm currently using an Alpkit skyehigh 600 when it's cold and a Mountain Hardware Lamina 35 for the summer months. Unfortunately the Lamina is disappearing... It's not actually mine and my mother needs it for a year around the world... Before I just buy another Lamina 35 any other recommendations?
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Awesome... I think you and D.P. have just sold me on that!
Now next question as I'm here... lightweight 2/3 sleeping bag recommendations. Reasonably priced (up to around £150) and packs down small? I'm currently using an Alpkit skyehigh 600 when it's cold and a Mountain Hardware Lamina 35 for the summer months. Unfortunately the Lamina is disappearing... It's not actually mine and my mother needs it for a year around the world... Before I just buy another Lamina 35 any other recommendations?
PHD or Rab bags for me! I've just got myself a Rab Neutrino 200 which is rated to 2C, the Lamina is rated to 0C but weighs 1kg instead of the 600g of the Rab! Little bit more than £150 though if you can stretch to it. I would say an Alpkit PD400 which was what I originally wanted but they're rarer than rocking horse crap!
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Awesome... I think you and D.P. have just sold me on that!
Don't forget to get hold of a footprint for the Hubba Hubba HP if you do go with that..
I've always used Mountain hardwear bags with Liners for increasing warmth. got a silk one and a micro fleece one depending on time of year and location..
Good thing about buying quality kit is it lasts for years, works out better than buying cheap tat in the long run.
Worth a few minutes watch, he's not as annoying as some kit reviewers
I'm 5'10", didn't at all seem short to me but with my height that doesn't mean it was a long tent.
One thing I like about the Hubba Hubba is that the walls go up steep like a dome, so you have more volume than some other tents than lean significantly from near the ground.
How long is a piece of string? You get what you pay for really. More expensive hardware will be lighter, stronger, longer lasting, more functional, more waterproof, warmer, etc., etc.
In an English summer with a reasonable forecast then you don't need that much so cheaper options tend to be fine, but you will end up with more weight and something that wont last as long.
I've purchased very cheap tents before for 4 weeks trips in the US, at the end of the trip i would just ditch the tent because the seems start coming apart, pegs are useless, small tears appear etc.
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Did it last year, family of four(youngest was 7), and it took us about 6 hours on the tourist path. Not steep at all.
Cheers
Put it another way, what would you spec to keep cost and weight down, whilst still being reasonable quality.
Something like an Alpkit PD400 bag, MSR Pocket Rocket stove, 700ml mug, 100g gas cartridge that fits in the mug with the stove, spork, Wild Country Zephyros 1 tent. Should weight about 2.5kg in total and shouldn't cost more than about £300 all in!
Can always look around forums for second hand gear too. Loads of people offload perfectly good kit for cheap!
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Anyone up for an adventure 8th-14th July? I have that week off work, but my wife hasn't, so I am considering some sort of adventure on my own, or with someone else if anyone fancies it?
I'm not sure where to go yet, but I'm thinking 80-120 miles in Scotland somewhere with wildcamping (The more remote and wilder the better)?
Strangely tempted by this offer of camping with an unknown random! However, just switched jobs and waiting to catch the lay of the land before I throw in some hols!
A random stab in the dark... I'd say around £500 would get you a reasonable set of stuff.
£200 tent
£100 sleeping bag
£70 bag
£30 knockoff thermarest
£50 pan and stove
That's not going to be the best stuff but it'll be reasonably light and you can then replace bits down the line.
For example:
Wild Country Zephyros 1 £100 or a Force 10 helium 200 if you're wanting something that bit better at £250
Mountain Hardware Lamina 35 £125 (Last years can be had for £90 at Ellis Brigham)
MSR Pocket Rocket £30 and a Primus Etapower 1L Pot £35
Mountain Equipment Helium Mat £45 or my favourite Thermarest Prolite Plus if you want the "best" £100
Then stick it all in a nice ~35L rucksack (say an Osprey Talon 33L at £85)
Nice fairly lightweight setup (around 7kg) for around £380-500 before 10% or 15% discount - Join the BMC for £15 to get the discount)
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