Honda Integra (Si, not Type R)

Serj

Serj

Serj

Soldato
Joined
18 Nov 2004
Posts
3,577
Location
Bournemouth
My brother is currently looking at a 1994 Honda Integra Si. I'm trying to put him off as, from how i understand it, the car is nothing special and is certainly nothing much like the 97+ Integra Type R.

Am i right in thinking this? The engine is the 1.8 VTEC (he thinks its the B18C engine, can anyone confirm this?) and it has Limited Slip Diff, as far as i can see that's the only things it has going for it? It won't handle like anything like a Type R will it?
 
Its better than most hot hatches and still makes 178bhp. With a good 15lbft more torque around 5000rpm so more road friendly. Its a B18C as its JDM and hence no number. LSD is only a viscous unit but more than capable. Look at the price he will be paying compared to a Type R!

Decent cars and insurance is reasonable unlike the Type R's.
 
Oh, not bad at all then really. It will be a decent upgrade for him, he currently has a white 1991 Civic with the 1.6 non-VTEC 16v engine. 130 bhp ish iirc.

What sort of 0-60 are we looking at?
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Aorund 7.

Its a much better car than that Hyundai you have anyway :p
Click to expand...

1) My brother is buying it

2) I bought an MR2 today :p Pick it up on Wednesday.
 
PMKeates said:
Info and pics tbh! :D
Click to expand...

1998 GT T Bar, UK car though so no turbo, don't think i could trust myself and plus the petrol might just kill me if i boot it the whole time. Will make a seperate thread when i pick it up.

[edit]

Oh and he didn't buy the car, he took two mates with him (one of them has turbo'd a Teg in the past, something like that anyway) and they didn't think that particular example was any good. I haven't spoken to him yet though, no idea what it was.
 
Last edited:
gambitt said:
or it could be that the Si is a jap import so it's bhp is based on 100 ron fuel instead of 95...
Click to expand...

Its still a different engine. No way of skewing that, even with the usual RON rubbish. My SiR ran 178bhp three days after i got it :p
 
Im not being pedantic. I'm just stating the fact its NOT exactly the same. The thing people get carrying away with with the usual 'Its a Teg Si with the B18c4 lump'. I guess you have a bit of a hold up about the whole B18c situation though ;) :p

If you do a main component count you may find the 4 pistons actually amount to more than 1% of the engine anyway :p It also has a much better ECU and the exhaust manifold is different. So you can reverse that silly 99% statement too whilst you're sponging up more information to regurgitate later.

or it could be that the Si is a jap import so it's bhp is based on 100 ron fuel instead of 95...
Click to expand...

It strikes me that you are actually trying to suggest the difference could be down to RON and maybe some other factors and based on something you may have read on the internet... let me stop you there, the C4 in the VTi is 10:1 the B18c in the Teg Si is 10.6:1 end of story.
 
since when was the ECU part of the engine? Next you'll tell me the exhaust manifold is part of the engine.. no wait, you already did that! :rolleyes: :p

Would you say that the jdm b18c type-r engine is a completely different engine to the uk b18c6? They have different ECUs, exhaust manifolds and few other minor differences but they are essentially the same engine lump.

How about the b16a2 from the 92-95 civic and the b16a2 from the 96+ civic? The ECUs are different, one is OBD1 one if OBD2, different dizzy and manifolds but they are the clearly same.

So the only difference between the Si engine and the 1.8 VTi engine is 0.5 compression ratio. Was it really worth posting a nit picking reply or do you not have nothing better to do?
 
Last edited:
Its actually 0.6 and down to different pistons. HOWEVER I was mainly pointing out the 11bhp, hardly the 'exact' same engine :confused: The Civic VTI often considered the slower of the Vtis with the 1.6 performing (on paper) better. I wanted to point out that certainly isnt the case with the Si with its arguable better engine for road use. But i guess in paper tuning land where most stuff is based on book figures and what you read then that isnt what matters is it, nor does the package the engine comes in (ie ECU gearbox, airbox) just careful you dont get a papercut practicing the JDM origami y0 :p .

I didn't intend to nit pick, but as you have now invited me to do so I'd like to point out im the one driving round in a working car with a high output B18c, not getting hung up over the hyped Honda y0 carp that drives people to have a pleathora of Honda VTECs. They make pretty crappy cars to run as a second driver with the OTT parts and insurance. So maybe me having nothing else to do is preferable to having so many cars, surely you could just get a DC5?

The C6 is the exact same engine as the 98spec JDM engine yes, and thats me using, as usual, the words in the correct context. The b16a2 is indeed the same engine as the later b16a2... theres a really obvious clue hinting at the fact they are the same engine, but saying one engine is exactly the same yet has 11bhp more is opening yourself up to have your opinion corrected with fact ;) Anyway get of your soapbox taking things far too seriously as usual. You've had advice in the past about your rebuild, can I ask how much its cost so far?
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom