Housemate advice

Stop messing around in house shares and move into a flat with your girlfriend.

For some people easier said than done with the cost difference - though much easier to do if there is two of you.

For reasons like this there is no way I would share a house with random people.
 
Those photos are horrifying. How can anyone live like that? :O

I've seen worse there doesn't seem to be much discarded food mess itself and only a few discarded cans on the floor, etc. I've seen people whose rooms you can't even see the floor for a 2-3 depth of cans, bottles and crisp packets, etc. and the inside of their car the same!

If OP isn't going to tackle it head on then I'd say start by putting a nice big bin with black liner bag outside his door obviously positioned (not just leaving a sack) :s though you may end up putting it out yourself but might atleast get him into the habit of removing the mess from the room over time.
 
It's definitely not pretty but a good portion of that looks like surface mess so easily dealt with. We cleared out a former lodger's room that was much worse in terms of smells, liquids and foods (though found some cash and a Ronaldo football top).

Someone I knew at uni used to have dinner sized plate ashtrays, several of them in a uni room!
 
Nope.

Thats like saying it should be 50/50 satisfaction with 2 lovers making sexy time in bed... When the truth is it should be 100/100. ;)

Nope. If you're assigning blame for one issue, 200 has been accounted for, they each have 100. If we wanted to be more precise I would just say both having 100% is not possible.
 
It's definitely not pretty but a good portion of that looks like surface mess so easily dealt with. We cleared out a former lodger's room that was much worse in terms of smells, liquids and foods (though found some cash and a Ronaldo football top).

Someone I knew at uni used to have dinner sized plate ashtrays, several of them in a uni room!

When i was a student i lived in a house share where we had to keep pota and pans locked in our rooms otherwise the flithy 2-3 housemates would use them and leave them everywhere. Once we got fed up of tidying up after them and it got to the point where we had 5 black bags of rubbish full of maggots, every piece of cutlery and pots and pans were mouldy and the water on the work surfaces turned to a rancid jelly. We were cooking our food and cleaning our stuff then putting it in our rooms to save them. The kitcheb and lounge became out of bounds for the cleans housemates as we went into each others rooms to eat and socialise or we went out.

In the end it got so bad and the letting agent didnt care, it took 3 of us 10 hours to sanitize and clean/bin everything as it just got too much and the pigs we lived with wouldn't clean it
 
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Many thanks for all your responses everyone.

@Jasoncmor

Sorry man didn't want to come across as being harsh on you but you do need to act on this as he obviously isnt getting the message and he isn't going to change. After seeing those pics i felt compelled to tidy my house, that isn't untidy but did need a few things doing!

I wouldn't give him a few days to sort stuff out, i would sit him down, say "look there's been a smell coming from your room for some time, your room is a ******* mess and we know its been like this for months but we've tried to be nice about it and drop hints. You have to go because we cant live like this."

Don't give him a chance or a time frame to sort himself out... just lay it down he has to go in 1 month. Tell him he can either do it this way and do it right or you will get the landlord involved.

That's no problem, I know i have issues to deal with and I am working on them, things just don't change overnight though, as much as I would like them to, But I know I need to sort myself out aswell, but thank you :)

Sees OP from Jan.
See state of room.
Sees said housemate has still, now AUGUST, not been given the boot.

Christ alive, get rid and get on with your life. You owe him nothing.

Once you learn that people will continue to take advantage of you if you allow it you will realise this.

To put my money where my mouth is, I've kicked a paying lodger out for breaching our agreement. Called a taxi for him, packed him a bag and gave him a week to return to collect his **** before I gave it away.

This isn't even your property so just do yourself a favour.

Good points thanks, I have always been taken advantage of but I just put it down to people being *********, but I know I need to deal with that on a personal level, but i've prepared my talk with him and as soon as he returns, he will get the picture!

Additional... if he gives you any **** when you speak to him or starts acting like a nob...... plop those photos on facebook to his parents and friends.

I have debated contacting his friends / family due to this and other issues, but then I think, i'm not his carer, but at the same time I see him being this way.

Well it might be embarrassing for the OP, thats my first thought! It might also cause extra friction for the OP having invaded someone privacy AND posted photos of said invasion to the public. I'm not judging just saying it could cause uneeded aggro for him.

Part of the reason I haven't sat him down is we still currently live together and I just worry about things turning bad.

For a second I thought a couple of those pics were taken inside one of those large metal bins on the street.

Its close enough, I don't know how much is under the bed as I didn't want to get low enough to be able to see! lol

The OP has been more than understanding and put up with a hell of a lot more than most people would. He is not this slobs keeper nor his parent.

What ****** me off the most is anything like this... everyone jumps on the mental health bandwagon which actually IMO takes away from people with real mental health issues. The only mention of mental health issues is from people saying "he must be depressed to live like that" so lets assume he has mental health issues and isn't just a filthy slob.

If he get clinically diagnosed then ill change my line but even then he needs booting out and his family need to be picking up his care not the OP but until then this guys needs to take some personal responsibility and sort his **** out. If he gets kicked out then he needs to turn back to family to put him up, if thats not an option... pc needs selling to fund somewhere to live while he sorts himself out.

This is one of those ‘speak the harsh truth to be kind’ moments....

OP, at this point, you are not being a ‘nice guy’, you are being a wimp. You are tolerating far too much. Re-establish your boundaries, tell this slob to sort his crap out and stop enabling him. Don’t carry his weight for him.

You are right, I am a wimp, always have been, just another issue of mine :(

Wow op is an idiot, talk about self inflicted problems....

You also are right, I know I should have dealt with this head on as soon as it started happening, but being too trusting, giving too many chances ends in situations like these.
Problem I have is I feel like the ******* for being strict or firm with people.

I see it like they both to blame, just for seperate things, if that makes sense. Its early, the coffee hasn't kicked in and I shouldn't be posting really :p

Yeah, I get that!

You'll realise one day this isn't because you're a 'nice guy'. It's because you're afraid of confrontation and so you get walked over. The nice guy thing is just a half arsed label so you don't feel bad about it.

The sooner you realise that 'being nice' is not the same thing as avoiding confrontation and start standing up for yourself a bit more the better off you'll be.

Thank you, as said, this is something I need to work on, but hearing people write it out does help me to understand more clearly.

Why don't you clean out his room while he's away and tell him you expect it to be as tidy as you left it in 3 months or you'll have to get the landlord involved?

I'm afraid of catching something lol, but seriously, he needs to clean it and I will offer to help if he wants it but it will be down to him.

Frankly with half the **** literally falling out of the room, how on earth do you guys not spot this whenever he opens his door?

I know you said he rarely leaves his room, but a) he's gotta use the toilet/get showered, and b) he's gotta answer the front door for his takeaways.

My flatmates at uni never used to want to help empty the bins either, in the end it used to just get piled up near the front door outside one of their bedroom doors. Thankfully i was the other end of the corridor so the smell and flies never reached down my end.

That's the funny thing, he always closes it, when he goes to the front door, bathroom or go out its closed, when i knock on his door to talk to him, he climbs over everything and opens the door maybe a foot and stands in the door way some no one can see in, Im often in the spare room which is next door and always hear him tripping over it, and gliding across the wall to get to the door.

Stop messing around in house shares and move into a flat with your girlfriend.

That is something that will happen in the future.


Cheers all
 
You need to get yourself on a confidence and assertiveness course pronto.

I've had this happen twice in my life. Once was at uni where I ended up threatening to throw the offending lad out of the window if he didn't sort it out. The second when I houses in London where I threw a pack of bin liners at the bloke and told him to clear out the room or else id be going in the next day and doing it for him but stripping the room of literally everything.

Both times the problem was solved within a day, although I was nicknamed Ivan Drago at uni as I boxed and have the ability to look calm but dangerous at the same time (my wife stills calls me Mr Russian if I give her a certain look) . The irony is I'm very peace loving and avoid conflict unless absolutely necessary. You just need to lay down the law and don't get tied up with his issues.

You constantly put yourself down in this thread, man up a bit and have some self confidence. Go learn judo or something.
 
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So small update, and not a good one.
The person who was supposed to be moving in to replace this guy unfortunately didn't in the end, their circumstances made them unsure and so with time running out, I had a chat with the guy and said to him, in essence that some things had to change in particular with things being cleaned, paying bills on time etc.
The bills situation has been fine, i'm not sure that i mentioned previously in this thread, but this guy spent all his money and couldn't afford the rent a couple of months ago, and some of the bills, so that put us in a difficult situation, he sorted it last minute, but we had to put our money into the bank to avoid overdraft charges, as the rent goes out as one payment.

I've spoken to him multiple times and it always seems to be talking to a brick wall, I just get "yes" "i agree" "i know i need to sort this" etc, and nothing ever changes.

So, we have a joint tenancy agreement, and from my understanding we are all responsible for the property so that's the main reason I haven't gone to the landlord yet as i fear that he may just turn around and say you all need to get out because we are all in the house together.

Whilst I have kept reminding him about the days the rubbish and recycling goes out, and left rubbish bags outside his door I haven't said outright that i've peeked inside his room and seen the mess, as I really don't know how he is gonna take it, I really am at a loss :(

Anyway, someone mentioned about photos, so i took some, which I will also have for the record if needed.
He's currently away again so I really want to decide on how to deal with this now.

Hoooooooly **** :eek: That's been let get out of hand for way too long - That's disgusting!
 
What I would have done because of the person I am is tidy the mess up when he wasn't in, took before and after photos.

Printed them out and then said if this goes back to the way the first picture was you are out and it's as simple as that".

No messing about tell them how it is mental health or not. Truth hurts and people need to stand up for themselves way quicker than leaving things to get to this stage.
 
Quite astounding that you have not been banned from the forum. Constant drivel posts.
How does someone who's only been here a few months and posted so little know that about Mags? :D
He's a fixture of the forums. Not necessarily a good one, but a fixture none the less.

INFORMAL
a person or thing that is well established in a particular place or situation.

As for the OP and his housemate problem - get that slob evicted, he's making your life hell.
 
That's the funny thing, he always closes it, when he goes to the front door, bathroom or go out its closed, when i knock on his door to talk to him, he climbs over everything and opens the door maybe a foot and stands in the door way some no one can see in, Im often in the spare room which is next door and always hear him tripping over it, and gliding across the wall to get to the door.

I'd call him on his bluff, there's no way that he'd not realise that someone could see half the rubbish piled up behind him no matter how little he tries to open the door.
 
Surely if you're scared of confronting him alone then it needs to be a communal thing with the other housemates. Why does this seem to only be falling on you?
 
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