How can they get away with this?

Abraxaz1 said:
wait why are people complaining? The police acted in self defence when charged my a mob of people carrying machetes with previous history of killing people?
Also surely by refusing to name the killers in there group they are obstructing a lawful investigation and adding a wanted criminal?

Or is all this, "I hate the police so I'm cool" rubbish
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The police killed those miners and the surviving miners are now being charged with those deaths. How does that sound in any way fair?

Yes they may have a history of violence, but being charged in this manner seems unjust.
 
int said:
The police killed those miners and the surviving miners are now being charged with those deaths. How does that sound in any way fair?

Yes they may have a history of violence, but being charged in this manner seems unjust.
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the police killed those miners because they charged at arm police brandishing machetes? what did they think was going to happen. The police have just as much right to return home without injury as everyone else, they acted in self defence.
Unjust? where's the justice for the families of those murdered by the mob? The lot of them are protecting murders and criminals, pretty sure thats an offence in nearly every country world wide.
 
int said:
The police killed those miners and the surviving miners are now being charged with those deaths. How does that sound in any way fair?
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This sounds like a line from someone who's seen the headline, read the summary and then not read anything else on what actually happened further.
 
Same kind of thing as in America. If two people burgle a shop, and one is shot and killed by the owner in the process, the surviving burglar is then charged with the murder of his fellow burglar.

I guess they're saying... 'if you all hadn't protested, 32 people would still be alive right now!'
 
Is this how we should deal with the unions in the UK?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19424484

Summary: Miners strike, police shoot killing 34 miners, 270 surviving miners charged with their murder. The law that permits this dates back to the apartheid era.

Personally I say no, we shouldn't deal with the unions in such a way, but I'm always willing to listen to the other side's arguments on such issues.
 
I'm confused as to how (and why) you think this has anything to do with the debate for or against unions?

Ten people, including two police officers and two security guards, were killed during the protests before the police shooting.
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This was not a calm strike, it was a riot. There is no point in comparing anything that happens in SA to something in the UK, there is just no common ground.
 
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Fenris said:
I'm confused as to how (and why) you think this has anything to do with the debate for or against unions?



This was not a calm strike, it was a riot. There is no point in comparing anything that happens in SA to something in the UK, there is just no common ground.
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But I offer this premise:

Unions at their conception were a good idea, designed to protect the workforce from corrupt business owners.

Today however, the unions are the corrupt component. In my opinion the way things are going, Unions like Unite are the problem and why a lot of big business stays away from the UK and will eventually cause the total collapse of British industry. They're out of touch with reality.
 
When we see striking people wielding machetes yelling war chants and a load of people are found hacked to death but it "wasn't us gov" then yes that is the way to deal with strikers
 
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