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How does the GTX 580 compare to the GTX 480

In terms of performance, the 480 and 580 are a class above the 6870 yes. But it's performance you don't need. For twice the price. And the 480 will melt your system, so it's only the 580 that's worth considering if you have the money. But the 6870 is quieter and cooler still. Save your money.
 
Nexus18 said:
Personally if you really can't wait till ATI release there new cards I would get the 580 just simply for the reason that it is quiet (some say that it is the quietest card on the market at the minute compared to the 480, 5870 and a 285 which was overclocked iirc etc.) and runs very cool and of course is the fastest single GPU card on the market at the minute.

However personally IMO I don't think it is worth the price at the minute for me to even consider buying it, it would have to be around £370, but that is up to you if you want to spend that much considering it is really just a 485 (what fermi should have been).

Also it depends on what resolution your using, if you are going to be playing games at 1920x1080 then the 580 would probably be the best choice for single GPU and if you wouldn't mind going SLI/crossfire then probably 2x6870, 2x460 or 2x470 (although the 470 run very hot and noisy, but they are at a very good price at the minute to make that up in some ways :p)

Also you need to take into consideration, how many monitors you might want to run or are running at the minute as 1 nvidia GPU (580) can only run 2 monitors max iirc (you would need to go SLI in order to run 3 or more) and with ATIs cards you can run up to 6 iirc (with the 6xxx series that is).
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I was prepared to wait 'til late Nov but Dec is pushing it a bit.

I guess I will be gaming at 1920 x 1080, and will only be looking to utilise one monitor.
 
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Also personally I wouldn't go with pointless benchmarks like Fud, haven or whatever they are as personally I think it is completely pointless, most people buy GPUs for gaming not running a bit of software telling you a big number and also it doesn't really give you a great indication of real world performance for games as games could be poorly coded etc. therefore they will run like crap no matter how good the card is or a game could be coded very well and run really well on even a low-mid range card and of course certain games prefer certain brands of cards over another.
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Thanks again.

I'm an avid COD gamer, and that's really what the new system is for.
 
billysielu said:
In terms of performance, the 480 and 580 are a class above the 6870 yes. But it's performance you don't need. For twice the price. And the 480 will melt your system, so it's only the 580 that's worth considering if you have the money. But the 6870 is quieter and cooler still. Save your money.
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Now I'm confused lol.

How much real-time gaming gains would I get from the 480/580? Just looking at the prices and I could get 2 x 6870's for less money :)

Helpp!!!!!! :)
 
Wilks said:
Awesome.

I take it this system would be a great gaming rig? If this is the system I go for I'm planning to change the HDD from the Barracudda the Samsung Spinpoint F3, add a wirelss adapter and possibly (probably? lol) go for a GTX 580 over the 480.
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Yup, if you ask me I would say a wee bit of an overkill if it's just for gaming :p

However it will last for a good time for upcoming games in the sense of being able to play them on max settings and other things like encoding (if you do any that is) and other intensive stuff.

Wilks said:
I was prepared to wait 'til late Nov but Dec is pushing it a bit.

I guess I will be gaming at 1920 x 1080, and will only be looking to utilise one monitor.
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Ok, fair enough.

Ok, that won't be an issue then, the 580 is without a doubt the faster single GPU card out of all them at the minute.

Wilks said:
Thanks again.

I'm an avid COD gamer, and that's really what the new system is for.
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Ok, no problem :)

If it is just for COD, then it is complete over kill :p, lol. Although by sounds of it you probably play other types of games which would be more demanding.

If it where me for just gaming:

I would get an i5 750 or something like it as there really is very little difference between it and the i7 especially the i7 950 (especially when it comes to gaming, you would not see/notice any gain at all)

For gpu personally I would hold out, but since you need/want it now then I would go for a 6870 now, save the money and when the 69xx series come out and if there pretty good for a decent price, sell your 6870 and buy one of them.

Also 4GB IMO is more than enough for games to date.

I'll try and see if there is something a bit better for you in terms of gaming and doesn't cost any where as much.
 
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Nexus18 said:
If it is just for COD, then it is complete over kill :p, lol. Although by sounds of it you probably play other types of games which would be more demanding.
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COD's my main game - but I don't want to hamper any potential gaming from other sources :) I do play other games such as BF, Footy Manager etc.

Nexus18 said:
For gpu personally I would hold out, but since you need/want it now then I would go for a 6870 now, save the money and when the 69xx series come out and if there pretty good for a decent price, sell your 6870 and buy one of them.
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If the 69xx series isn't as good as expected, then wouldn't I lose out by not going for the 580 - which would then be the undisputed no1? I can't imagine that the 69xx series will be THAT much better than the 580 (but what do I know!)

Nexus18 said:
I'll try and see if there is something a bit better for you in terms of gaming and doesn't cost any where as much.
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Thanks a lot mate - much appreciated.
 
Wilks said:
COD's my main game - but I don't want to hamper any potential gaming from other sources :) I do play other games such as BF, Footy Manager etc.
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Yup, I understand that :)

Wilks said:
If the 69xx series isn't as good as expected, then wouldn't I lose out by not going for the 580 - which would then be the undisputed no1? I can't imagine that the 69xx series will be THAT much better than the 580 (but what do I know!)
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Well it's not so much the performance of the cards, because I would be surprised if the 6970 wasn't as good as the 580 or at least within 10% of the performance, it's more the price that would make me wait as I am sure that a price war will start once ATI release them and therefore you would get the 580 for quite a bit cheaper than what it is now (the price which it should/deserves to be IMO).

So I will let you decide what to do in terms of that, saying that though if you do get the 580 it will last you for a good few years anyway and max everything out for all the games at that resolution so you won't loose out at all really for that.

Wilks said:
Thanks a lot mate - much appreciated.
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Well had a look and there are systems that I would rather get and save the money on and put that saved money on a better IPS monitor and peripherals ;)

So I'll let you or someone else decide what would be best as there is a great choice of pre built systems:

Personally though I would recommend something along the lines of this:

CPU - I would go for and I5 750/760 setup as there is really no gain at all in games between an i5 and i7 at like £300

RAM - Get 4GB as again nothing really needs 6GB of RAM at the minute and once games do require more RAM (not for a few years apart from your very odd rare game), you can simply buy another 2GB or even 4GB pair and slot it in

Motherboard - this will decide what CPU you can get and type of RAM, the 1136 is better for SLI/xfire option as it has 2x PCI 16 lanes as opposed to the max of 2x 8PCI lanes and can support better/faster RAM (but very little difference again when it comes to games if you have no intention of having more than 1GPU)

Also I am not too keen on all of this overclocking stuff, as you have more problems, stabililty issues etc. but saying that it should be good since it is done by overclockers :)

I would rather build the system my self since it costs a lot less etc. and you have a greater choice of components etc.

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Just seen you don't want to build it your self.
 
Wilks said:
Saw this mate.

Pro's = price

Con's = Lesser case, motherboard, and HDD.

Is this a correct assessment?
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I think the mobo is actually better, might be wrong but either way it won't make a difference. Otherwise spot on assessment.

I think the dreadnought carries a little price bump on it because of the labour time required to switch out the fans/leds making it less good in value for money.
 
reiyushin said:
I think the mobo is actually better, might be wrong but either way it won't make a difference. Otherwise spot on assessment.

I think the dreadnought carries a little price bump on it because of the labour time required to switch out the fans/leds making it less good in value for money.
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Switch out fans/LED's?
 
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