How to eat 200g of protein a day?

smit101 said:
What about coconut oil,it's the most stable oil of all when heated. A good virgin coconut oil (vco) imparts a lovely nutty flavour into the food too, but it's not overpowering and the natural flavour of whatever your cooking remains. I love a rib eye steak fried in the stuff with a couple of fried eggs! :)
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theres nothing wrong with coconut oil if you have the money (its expensive compared to ground nut oil and they are practically the same thing).

ground nut (which is peanut), coconut, almond and walnut are all very similar oils.

i recommend ground nut oil because its cheap and available in every supermarket I've been to.

coconut oil can only be found in places like holland and barret, i have never seen it in any of the big supermarkets in my local area. therefore i reckon its best to tell people to use ground nut oil so they can just go to their local supermarket and it should be in the oil section where they normally buy their cooking oil.

if you recommend some of the other obscure oils, people are most likely not going to find them, or find them expensive and therefore just go for their normal option.
 
robotCocks said:
utter rubbish - absolute garbage

you can cook with olive oil as much as you want, it just won't stand the higher cooking temperatures that ground nut oil will, so don't cook with it on a very high temperature

it's great for slow frying onions, peppers etc.

the tv chefs have got it right i'm afraid - they know how to regulate the heat on the hob - anything that demands a higher heat and they will state that an oil that is more stable at that heat should be used

extra virgin olive oil should be used for a dressing only - but olive oil? no problems with cooking
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dude, i doubt anybody on here has the same skills as ramsay or oliver, therefore, do you not think it would be best to just use the safer and cheaper option and go for ground nut oil? or risk it and go for the more expensive olive oil then have to make sure you dont burn it by regulating the heat or slow cooking?
 
Psycho Sonny said:
dude, i doubt anybody on here has the same skills as ramsay or oliver, therefore, do you not think it would be best to just use the safer and cheaper option and go for ground nut oil? or risk it and go for the more expensive olive oil then have to make sure you dont burn it by regulating the heat or slow cooking?
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LOL - what exactly is your point here? people can cook with what they want - olive oil is perfectly fine to cook with

i don't have the same "skills as ramsay or oliver" and i can cook using olive oil pretty well, thanks

if you burn any food it's not going to be as good for you as food that's not burnt, is it?
 
Psycho Sonny said:
how many pro bodybuilders do you see on dialysis when they are older? or any huge athlete for that matter?

200g of protein is fine, even 300g is fine.
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Well 300g for a 150lb person I'd say is excessive - it's within reason really. However, I do generally agree with your point - usually big guys suffer heart problems rather than kidney issues.
 
Freefaller said:
No that's fine. :) Please go through the explanation of it - that's perfectly fine. :)
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OK, in that case...

Have spoken to a friend who is a medic. They would advise that if anyone is going to commence an unusual diet, such as high protein, to speak to their GP. No big surprise I think and good advice. Is this allowed in the rules? Stop me if I transgress :confused:

In my opinion it would be advisable to check kidney function with a simple urine test to make sure there are no undiagnosed underlying problems before beginning. Many people have chronic problems later in life (can be caused by diabetes and various other illnesses) and they are not aware of them until it reaches end stages. Kidney problems are not very common, but are definitely growing, mainly linked to the growth in diabetes which everyone should know is becoming a major issue.

Guidance from another friend who is a fully qualified fitness instructor is that 0.5 to 2g of protein per Kg of body weight is OK for short periods. So if someone weighed 100 kilos then 200g would be OK. They would need to weigh 150 kg to be OK with 300g of protein per day for short periods. I don't know many people who weigh over 100 kilos, let alone 150 kilos, so saying 300g is perfectly safe should come with the caveat 'depending on your body weight'.

They also said it would be a waste of money and may well have the other adverse health consequences that were referred to in the link I posted earlier. If you want to build muscle then eating lots of protein will do absolutely nothing unless you work out :D. Working out is the best way to build muscle and much better for you IMO.

I do honestly hope the OP doesn't do himself any harm, despite having been so rude to a new forum member (who has been using the internet for a lot longer than he has BTW).
 
No problem with that advice. Protein is necessary for building new tissue in our bodies, but along with a regular good diet and of course a good workout regime. I've always been of the view that huge protein diets are proportional to body mass so I think your friend is talking sense. I'm nigh on 100kg, but probably only eat around 180g max of protein a day. Works fine for me.
 
I have a mate who's brother was a soon to be graduated medic (this was a few years ago). I told this mate that if he wasn't careful he could end up with diabetes because he kept eating a lot of sugar (sweets, soft drinks, cakes, deserts, etc. in large quantities and frequently). He asked his brother and the soon to be doctor told him that I was talking rubbish and that could never happen. :/

It actually isn't that rare for exercise science to be more "advanced" than medical science, simply because people take more risks and there is potentially a lot of money involved.

I haven't looked myself for studies, but I'm fairly sure some of the research junkie article writers that I know of have stated that more than 200g a day is fine. The necessity of that figure is more debatable, but assuming a healthy diet with plenty of water intake everything will be fine.

I probably eat more than 200g, and I'm sitting on around 80kg of lean mass (very rough estimate). Some that is made up of shakes, but I'm also a big fan of large servings of meat :) (wait, no homo?)
 
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