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How will Brexit affect you and your family personally?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Evole, 28 Jun 2016.

  1. Schlong&Stable

    Mobster

    Joined: 27 Apr 2013

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    * Tax hikes are possible irrespective of Brexit
    * I welcome cuts to our bloated public sector.
    * Price rises are good if it helps our balance of trade.
    * Some companies need to go under to make room for better companies.
    * Travel is very cheap, there's plenty of scope to accommodate rises.

    I am not more effected by Brexit than say, a new Labour government.
     
  2. Arthur Hucksake

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    Joined: 14 Dec 2010

    Posts: 3,022

    Location: Nottingham

    Some things get more expensive, others will eventually get cheaper.

    Jobs will be at great risk, other job sectors may start to boom.

    Time to start looking to be adaptable.

    I'm already looking at taking on a second job delivering leaflets for a bit of pocket money and preparing to batten down the hatches.

    This was never going to be easy, but to be shot of the EU it's a price i'm willing to pay.

    If it means cutting down on luxuries, then so be it. You do what you got to do.
     
  3. Buffman

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 4 May 2007

    Posts: 8,120

    Location: West Midlands

    Fuel price increased
    Engineering consultancy work with a good order book (so I think I'm relatively ok... Altho company did urge me to remain..)
    Buying a house now (here's hoping mortgage rates decrease prior to buying)
    Mrs in public sector (relatively unaffected..)
     
  4. Things change I've changed

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    Joined: 27 Jul 2005

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    Location: The Orion Spur

    How have you got dual nationality?

    This is interesting as I asked my mum today about her nationality and she said although she was born in the UK her farther kept his Polish citizenship, I now wonder if that would quality her for dual nationality because reading from the wiki,

    "A child born to a Polish parent is a Polish citizen at birth. This applies whether the child is born in Poland or elsewhere."

    I guess I need to get her to ring the Polish embassy for clarification?
     
  5. Orcish-Horde

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    The old lazy narrative, the British are lazy. It used to be that the Irish were lazy, drunk and thick. Chavs, slobs, blood suckers, communism and fascists, the narrative is very clear. If they don't agree with your world view they are to be denounced. It didn't even take much to get to it, your skin deep. You came to the UK because what the British had built, we didn't need you even if most of us don't mind you starting a new life here, opps you jumped ship and your money is caught up in Brexit. Like I said I will bite.:p
     
  6. redline

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 12 Nov 2003

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    Location: Devonia :)

    Sitting here hoping the property we've just sold does not fall through due to fear of dropping property prices, and higher living costs... only two people in the chain, so hopefully neither will change their minds [and are 'outers']. Its not our main residence, but all this adds to the anxiety in an already stressful time. At this point its too early to feel any direct effect ourselves as little has changed that has a direct influence, but we know of others that's not the case for.


    We were also seriously thinking of starting our own business in the next year to eighteen months, but we will now wait until things settle, or have a clearer idea of this countries direction, before going down that route... if the situation allows us to do it at all.

    oh, and we took a gamble on filling our oil tank up in the face of possible fuel price rises.
     
    Last edited: 29 Jun 2016
  7. Freefaller

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    I wasn't born in the UK, though it shouldn't matter, but I guess it comes down to the country you're wanting to be a dual national of. :)

    It would come down to what the Polish statutes are for you - for me, my off spring could inherit my nationality as well (I've researched it), and will be doing so as and when that time comes (providing they do not change the rules by then!)
     
  8. robfosters

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    Location: Welling, London

    If Scotland get their wish, go independent and join the EU (looking unlikely), I should be able to get an EU passport through my scottish grandad. However, they may change that rule as they may be too flooded to give everyone with a scottish relative a passport.
     
  9. wez130

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    Location: Matakana New Zealand

    We don't just rely on people eating out though, we have contractors all week from Sellafield too. We are a hotel. We get the holiday makers for 8 ,months a year too plus we have a very strong local trade, some of our locals eat 3-4 times a week! For a village with about 12 inhabitants, that's pretty good going :) We are also strategically based for climbers of Scafell, which people will always be climbing, recession or not. Everybody doesn't just stop because there's a recession, i never in the last recession, and i'm hardly loaded! I still ate out etc.
     
  10. chroniclard

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    Thats all true, you will still be directly affected by brexit though. :)
     
  11. firstborn

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    :rolleyes:
     
  12. Schlong&Stable

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    I wish people would stop saying this.

    The majority of Scots rejected secession. The only reason the issue continues to fester is because our Westminster leadership has been too bogged down with internal issues to lance the boil that is the SNP.

    Whatever surge in SNP support there has been recently is not going to last indefinitely. They've had three terms in power and the cracks are now starting to show. If someone would actually take them to task on their record, the whole issue of independence would fall apart.

    Get this as an example: The SNP have CROWED about how they want to fight inequality and how they will protect education, but under SNP leadership poor students have suffered. Inequality in education is much higher than in England.

    How on earth can we be letting them get away with it? I seriously hope we'll get new leaders soon and with the Brexit issue settled (sans negotiations of details), some strong parties who can tackle the SNP north of the border.
     
  13. Kreeeee

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    I work for a UK company and live in Switzerland.

    If we leave the EU I will:

    - Lose the right to live here.
    - Lose the right to work here.
    - If I get around the first points I will become a third tier option in the job market here as Swiss and EU citizens get preferential treatment and priority on jobs by law.
    - I will get taxed twice on my income.
    - I will have to pay for Swiss health insurance on top of the UK national insurance.
    - My income, investments, savings and pension are in GBP which has already tanked and will plummet once we actually leave.
    - My small company will struggle to stay afloat as we rely on business from all over the EU, but we particularly rely on UK businesses doing well which will not be the case for a long time.

    Basically I will be completely screwed. Thanks guys!
     
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  14. bluesouljah

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    Location: Essex

    I don't remember anyone voting for you to live there, correct me if I am wrong.
     
  15. jonneymendoza

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    my missus is from europe and i am more likely to migrate away from the uk to somewhere like germany
     
  16. jonneymendoza

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    but most people voted for him not to be able to live and work there now after we get out of the eu
     
  17. jonneymendoza

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    there was another story up in manchesher telling a dark skinned ex army american guy to go back to africa in a packed public bus in rush hour....
     
  18. jonneymendoza

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    imo this is a single minded approach to life. we are born in this planet and tbh the whole planet is classed as our home. life is too short to be stuck in one place just for the sake of it and you cant complain to people who have a broader sense of the world itself where there are lots to see and experience outside of the town u was born and studied as a child in.

    live life
     
  19. jonneymendoza

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    yes or just racist.
     
  20. crinkleshoes

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    I'm also in CH... not quite how you put it, but there's a good chance it will be harder... like for Americans trying to come over here.

    They can still get the work, just the company have to state why you were a better choice over an EU national.

    I'm not in support of the leave, but mis-information and emotional over-inflation of the facts don't help either side... Much more rampant of the leave campaign than the remain, of course.

    - Lose the right to live here.
    You don't actually have one at the moment, there is no basic right allowing non-Swiss citizens to stay in CH, even EU nationals - it's just easier - as long as you have a job or a company sponsors you to be here
    - Lose the right to work here.
    Not true - but it could become a little more difficult
    - If I get around the first points I will become a third tier option in the job market here as Swiss and EU citizens get preferential treatment and priority on jobs by law.
    Yes and no - it depends on the specialism and it's already the case that there is a bias toward Swiss individuals, just like there has been a bias toward UK citizens for UK jobs since the inception of the EU - like many other countries, I would imagine
    - I will get taxed twice on my income.
    Very unlikely, the UK and Switzerland have double-taxation agreements with each other which is already independent of the EU and also with a number of countries outside the EU
    - I will have to pay for Swiss health insurance on top of the UK national insurance.
    Again, unlikely - for a similar reason as the last point. However, in such a scenario - surely you would pay the amount you are due and your company would pay the extra cost for double insurance incurred by posting you here? I know mine did, at my demand, before we learned that I could bring the UK healthcare with me... I actually have an 11k CHF rebate coming in the next couple of weeks thanks to my company's lack of research :)
    - My income, investments, savings and pension are in GBP which has already tanked and will plummet once we actually leave.
    No arguing there
    - My small company will struggle to stay afloat as we rely on business from all over the EU, but we particularly rely on UK businesses doing well which will not be the case for a long time.
    Possibly, but we shall see... with the crash of the GBP - it's possible business in a number of pan-European UK-based business might actually increase and a lot of them will be able to be paid in EUR/CHF anyway as it's easy to setup an account in those currencies and then with the week GBP - the companies could make higher headline figures when they convert the funds themselves. The company who sent me to Switzerland were UK-based but being paid in USD even.

    Uhhh... what?

    Well the UK lead the creation of the EU, so actually - yes - the UK and many other countries DID, in fact, vote for us to be able to move more freely in this area.

    So... because there are a large number of racist bigots who fell for much of the scare-mongering, others should suffer their foolishness?

    I doubt many who voted leave even thought about the ramifications, believing the lies of politicians and media. If they did, it's a little saddening that they didn't care.

    I voted for what I thought was best for everyone in the UK based upon my ability to pick apart the fact from fiction which I spent many years learning. The evidence is overwhelmingly in favour of remain.

    Quite right... this vote is something which has the basis to take away the basic rights of many - the right to freedom of movement.
     
    Last edited: 30 Jun 2016