Poll: Hungarian Grand Prix 2019, Budapest - Race 12/21

Rate the 2019 Hungarian Grand Prix out of ten

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JunglistE said:
Fair play to Max. That was a brilliant lap.

Honda still have another spec engine to release don’t they? The second half of the season could get interesting and if all things stay like this, next year could be very close.

If Max can get a decent start tomorrow I don’t see anyone getting past him
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It’s going to be interesting. He has very good race pace and management of the car. There have been few race simulations, so who knows. Great for us.
 
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I think the best way to try and judge where the engines are compared to one another is to look at where the customer teams are in relation to one another. i.e. the Mercedes engined cars seem to have dropped down a bit this year compared to last year where the others have come up. Thats not to say the Mercedes engine is worse than any of the others, just that its being reeled in. What we also have to take into account is that RB have been hammering the aero for the last 4 years in an effort to catch up with everyone as their engine wasn't quite there and now they've been given a boost in the engine department, its really starting to show. Imagine they had a Ferrari or Mercedes engine in the back of it! :eek:

I honestly think that the RB could be on par or even further ahead this year if it still had the Renault engine. You just have to look at the jump in the Mclaren's performance to see its improved. (I doubt there renewed performance is down to just aero improvements alone?!)
 
Myself and others have said this before... it’s because of a stable set of rules!

Every time the FIA change the rules we have 1 -3 years of dominance followed by a final year of close racing as the teams even out. Law of diminishing returns and all that.

I’m not suggesting we are quite at that stage yet but I’d wager that next year will be the closest year we’ve had in years.
 
I wonder who will manage to make the best interpretation of the rules this time round? I know people don't like the Mercedes dominance but i'm really not a fan of RB and Ferrari... Even more so when they are winning. Haha! It would be nice to see Mclaren back at the top though.
 
englishpremier said:
Is their engine faster/more powerful though? It's known that Mercedes carry a fair bit more downforce. Perhaps if they reduced their downforce to Ferrari levels their engine would be faster.

On the other hand, if the Ferrari engine is so powerful, why aren't teams adding more downforce? If the power difference is big enough they could even add more draggy downforce and still come out even or ahead.



Max is getting better/more likeable. I remember when Lewis first came on the scene he was a right ****. He was calling back-markers monkeys and all kinds of bad attitude stuff. It seems to be what happens when you're thrust into a fast car. Those that have struggled with slower teams are generally more likeable and humble. After 2009 and few poorer Lewis seemed to mature a bit. Max is no different.
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Fair points, guess I`m just getting older and ranting about the youth these days.
 
The problem with red bull is that they always get it wrong at the start of the season. They develop well throughout the season. Ferrari on the other hand go backwards.
 
Outcast said:
Dunno about Alonso but did anyone else see Seb clocking that Red Bull in Parc Ferme?
Bet he's on the blower to Christian !
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Yes he was having a proper good look :)

Great lap by Max, I won't be surprised to see Lewis up behind him on the start and out-drag Bottas. So how much can we attribute to which corner, is the RB a phenomenal chassis with a rapid driver or have Honda really got their **** together? What are the speed traps anyone know?
 
I think Max is now approaching or on the same level as Hamilton in terms of pure pace, Hamilton is obviously still the more complete driver who has achieved infinitely more but I do feel his raw pace has declined a little relative to what it used to be which makes sense given he's now approaching his mid 30's when drivers reaction times traditionally start to decline a little.
 
neckbeardthethird said:
I think Max is now approaching or on the same level as Hamilton in terms of pure pace, Hamilton is obviously still the more complete driver who has achieved infinitely more but I do feel his raw pace has declined a little relative to what it used to be which makes sense given he's now approaching his mid 30's when drivers reaction times traditionally start to decline a little.
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I think the argument on reaction times is over blown. I see it as being that important. You get people in much more demanding sports where reactions are more important, still performing well with age.

Some studies show that the brains reaction times peak at 24. Going by that Max's reactions could well be much slower than Lewis' still. Or they could be even, who knows.
 
neckbeardthethird said:
I think Max is now approaching or on the same level as Hamilton in terms of pure pace, Hamilton is obviously still the more complete driver who has achieved infinitely more but I do feel his raw pace has declined a little relative to what it used to be which makes sense given he's now approaching his mid 30's when drivers reaction times traditionally start to decline a little.
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Same level as Hamilton? After one pole?

I don’t deny Max is talented but that sort of hyperbole is nonsense. Max still can’t race wheel to wheel or admit fault, so I’d say he’s got a lot of maturity ahead of him before anyone proclaims him to be one of the greats.
 
neckbeardthethird said:
I think Max is now approaching or on the same level as Hamilton in terms of pure pace, Hamilton is obviously still the more complete driver who has achieved infinitely more but I do feel his raw pace has declined a little relative to what it used to be which makes sense given he's now approaching his mid 30's when drivers reaction times traditionally start to decline a little.
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Not yet, but it is getting closer. Hamilton has a much wiser head on him over the course of a championship battle. When max crashed when leading the Brazil race last year Hamilton’s words said it all, it just wasn’t worth the risk. Very few of these ‘quick’ drivers have had anything to lose and therefore no pressure.

In the future, who knows. Mercedes need their cheque book ready for max.
 
I think it’s probably not the best comparison as max is on the up at the beginning of his career and Lewis will inevitably be on the way down due to their respective ages. (This isn’t to say Lewis is dropping off a cliff or anything but it’s a fact that he is in the latter stages of his racing career.)

I think the future is safe enough though with the max’s, lando’s, charles’ etc of the grid ready to take over.
 
Lewis was like this when he was younger. As people have alluded to, he has more to lose and will make decision that get him 2-5 when winning isn't an option rather than crash chasing the win.
 
CSMonkeh said:
Ferrari really need to pull their fingers out.
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How do you blame Ferrari? When they were robbed 2 victories by FIA, and on a strong for them circuit, it was rain hit. So, Ferrari are hit either by the circumstances or the environment.
The car is not built to perform on this type of track!
 
Merlin5 said:
Why is he a scumbag?

Also, Ricciardo getting paid millions and can't even reach Q2, lol. I should be an F1 driver, I could also be wealthy and not get anywhere.
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Yeah I think it was too much money. They're are plenty of good rookies who are far cheaper and just as good.

I wonder if DR is glad to be not behind max in the same car or not because that car is winning
His attitude is a bit concerning too

Renault back skiing terribly

Don't see this being a good race
Need Bottas on pole with the fast drivers (Hamilton Verstappen) behind him so you get the inevitable passes.
 
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