I am building a Peltier setup at the moment

I love people like you ,you remind me of my children .
Now you resort to insulting me and again try to make assumptions ,crawl back into your own little hole.
If you are looking for an alternative to your own peltier ,then ask or behave in a way that might just get an informative answer ,otherwise dont bother.
 
I know you're not using the 1200W power supplies for the peltiers. You'd have to be dedicated and misguided to run a motherboard from a 24V meanwell.

The potential problem with the 1200W supplies is that your spec lists them as rated for 360W. Not 1200W. So they'd be crap at running your computer. They'd also be crap at running your peltiers, but I know you're not planning on connecting the 1200W supplies to the peltiers.

How can you be this illiterate?
 
still with the insults ,the 1200 watt psu's power my system perfectly actually ,,even if i was dyslexic ,does that make me a no brainer ,many successful people are that way ,i know in my life i am very successful and live a good life .But as you seem to be a very self important person ,i do hope you get over yourself. please dont bother posting in this thread as it is no longer welcome.I grow tired of your insulting manner.
 
That desk mod looks cool im interested to know. What is the sound like with all those fans going? Can you run them all silently at low rpm? Ive always wanted to do something similar to this but dont have the woodworking skills. Maybe one day i will mod my desk. Do you have a project build log for this?
 
I will be posting my build log,once everything is done,so i can organise it all into the correct sections.
I have not posted in a few days as i kept getting silly remarks and insults as to my punctuation and such,but this has nothing to do with the work i do on my builds,so i doubt i will ever get to install a comma or a capital I in one of my builds...lol
All that matters is that i do my build in a correct and safe manner and improve on previous ones,also that i get the full enjoyment out of it.
 
promethieus don't let the naysayers get you down, just because some people just seem to be looking for an argument, i must applaud your self restraint, i would have probably lost it by now and earned myself a holiday.

anyway, seriously impressed with the desk looks like a very nice piece of work. the only potential issue i noticed was possibly a lack of room for a longer GPU, even though the 4870x2 is already quite along card and I'm sure you have considered it anyway.
maybe it was just the angle in the video that makes it look quite tight.

cool desk........its giving me ideas now...:)
 
PromETHieus, i suggest you actually read and consider what JonJ678 has posted. He clearly never set out to insult you and is providing sound information that you should take on board.

I don't know him and have no vested interest for standing up for him, but what he has posted about the physics of TEC's, your electrical requirements and the thermodynamics of your setup is all true. You don't seem to grasp the complexity of what you are trying to do.

I mean no disrespect to you or your 'friends' but are any of you qualified to disagree with myself or John? AFAIK, we both are/have studied engineering at degree level, and have done the physics and mathematics of what you are trying to achieve on a daily basis. Yet you insist on arguing against someone who clearly knows more about the subject than you, and you don't seem to be able to answer any of the simple questions asked of your designs in this project, which is perhaps why JohnJ678 came across as attacking you, and has since lost patience with your responses.

Again this is not meant as a comment on you or your friends, it is a post trying to ensure you are not wasting money on something that ultimately isn't going to work efficiently or at all.
 
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If i get good advice,then i will use it.
When it comes to the build,i had pointed out that i was doing the build with the advice from people i spoke to every day as i am part of a gaming clan,the guys who are advising me,have already done this project and they have things set up nicely.
But all i got from Jon was "i cant believe you are just wading into this without having given it any thought"
My reply to that is,how dare he make his assumtions just because this is what he thinks,also insulting someone over the misplacement of commas and spellings is just wrong,so he may have better spelling than me,but that does not give him the right to try to belittle someone publicly on here.
I wanted to do this build and put up pictures so that those who didnt know about it would have an idea of what was involved .
As for showing TEC calculations and power calculations,i said at the start that all this would be done when i started the build,i have already worked this out before hand ,then chose the components that i needed.
If someone is going to give advice to me ,then it should be done in a polite manner,not just barging in and forking out insulting comments .
I am still waiting for all the parts to arrive,as the guy who is making the blocks,lives in NZ and after the earthquake there,he has had trouble getting a part for his CNC as the stepping motor went during the job.
Like i said before i welcome any advice,so long as it is done in a polite and constructive way,but please do not try to decide if i have done my homework on this build.
I have already completed a complicated Desk build,which has proven itself greatly,in running and temperatures.
I have spent a fortune on components and have done all the work myself,after having sat down and planned ahead where everything was going to go and also combining such a build was not an easy task.
One last thing,just because you went to Uni,or have an engineering degree doesnt mean that i am incapable of doing the build in hand.
You do not know anything about me,or what qualifications i have.
I do appreciate your comments though,but lets see what my build turns out like,then you can throw whatever you want at me.
 
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To Bru,many thanks for your comments,it was a difficult build but it has paid off.
The card space can be adjusted with ease,all i have to do is reposition the wood to be able to accept the new longer card.
I doubt i will have to do this though as i already had 2 4870 x2 cards in there and they both fitted nicely,but i took one of them out as i felt 4 gpu's was a bit of overkill and would not and did not notice any benefit from having the 4 gpu's .
I then gave the 4870 x2 card to one of my kids,we have 5 kids and 10 computers in the house,they are all pc mad...lol
I must go as i am in the middle of rebuilding the engine for my car,it is up on the bench at the moment and have just finished skimming the head,time to refit and torque the head......fun fun .
 
I am just now waiting for the blocks to be made and sent over from New Zealand but there may be a delay as they had an earthquake recently and there is a delay in getting a new stepping motor for the cnc.
I am also awaiting delivery of the Mean Well power supply, once all parts are here i will begin the build and log.
Thankyou all for your patience.
 
Cheers vertica. That was a good guess, I'm partway through mechanical engineering.

It is fortunate that you have done the required calculations, they're taking me a rather long time. It is a shame that you choose not to share any of them.

Would you grace us with your plans for dealing with condensation?
 
Please please please ,why cant you just listen to what i said,,,,,WHEN EVERYTHING IS HERE AND I AM ACTALLY DOING THE BUILD,THEN I WILL BE STARTING THE LOG....I have stated this before...like i said i have 5 kids,,,i spend my time working and looking after them,so until the parts are all here and the build is actually started then i wont be putting things up...i like to do the log as i go along,it makes more sense as when and if i run into any thing,then i can post that and how i overcame it...What is soo wrong with that.
As you get older you learn that just rushing things doesnt work or getting stressed about things doesnt work either.I spent time in the Royal Marines when i was younger and saw a few things that normal people dont get to see in life,it changes your outlook on things in a very different way.
Yes you learn to prepare for things,but you live life everyday as much as you can.
I saw combat in Bosnia and trust me that was a messy war,the images you come home with really play on you forever...I was a Sharpshooter and so everytime i took a shot i had to prepare for it ,or else it would have been my last .
When you teach people or even give advice,it needs to be done in a polite manner not overbearing and not dictated either.
I have just checked and my PSU is now at customs having been ordered from China, so that will be here in a couple of days.
The TEC'S and Block will be here as soon as they are made,i wrote that Ultrasonic's cnc machine suffered a breakdown as the stepping motor is now u/s,he has ordered a new one,but due to the earthquake over there,there could be a delay.
Condensation is all taken care of,using the usual products,
Neoprene
Liquid electrical tape
Conformal coating
Dielectric grease

The way my Desk has been made allows for great control as there are 23 fans in the desk all placed at strategic positions to combat and condensation that may arise.
Like i said i will be putting everything in the build log,once i start the build.
 
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Cheers vertica. That was a good guess, I'm partway through mechanical engineering.

It is fortunate that you have done the required calculations, they're taking me a rather long time. It is a shame that you choose not to share any of them.

Would you grace us with your plans for dealing with condensation?
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Please please please ,why cant you just listen to what i said,,,,,WHEN EVERYTHING IS HERE AND I AM ACTALLY DOING THE BUILD,THEN I WILL BE STARTING THE LOG....I have stated this before...like i said i have 5 kids,,,i spend my time working and looking after them,so until the parts are all here and the build is actually started then i wont be putting things up...i like to do the log as i go along,it makes more sense as when and if i run into any thing,then i can post that and how i overcame it...What is soo wrong with that.
As you get older you learn that just rushing things doesnt work or getting stressed about things doesnt work either.I spent time in the Royal Marines when i was younger and saw a few things that normal people dont get to see in life,it changes your outlook on things in a very different way.
Yes you learn to prepare for things,but you live life everyday as much as you can.
I saw combat in Bosnia and trust me that was a messy war,the images you come home with really play on you forever...I was a Sharpshooter and so everytime i took a shot i had to prepare for it ,or else it would have been my last .
When you teach people or even give advice,it needs to be done in a polite manner not overbearing and not dictated either.
I have just checked and my PSU is now at customs having been ordered from China, so that will be here in a couple of days.
The TEC'S and Block will be here as soon as they are made,i wrote that Ultrasonic's cnc machine suffered a breakdown as the stepping motor is now u/s,he has ordered a new one,but due to the earthquake over there,there could be a delay.
Condensation is all taken care of,using the usual products,
Neoprene
Liquid electrical tape
Conformal coating
Dielectric grease

The way my Desk has been made allows for great control as there are 23 fans in the desk all placed at strategic positions to combat and condensation that may arise.
Like i said i will be putting everything in the build log,once i start the build.
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Erm.... so I've been following this because I have always had an interest in Tec cooling. I think it would be really kind of you if you were willing to answer some of these very basic questions honestly...

Generally work flow of a project is:
Idea,
Planing,
Researching and replaning,
Then only buying things,
all we are asking for is information about the research and planing you have already claimed to have done :p


Firstly people have asked what gear you have already ordered( you would know this if you have already ordered them from New Zealand). People have asked what sort of calculations you have done. You mention how you from all of your great life experience believe things ought to be rushed. That tells me that you would have already done all your calculations etc, so why not just copy and paste them into a post reply. One of your reasons for this is you don’t have the time because of your 15 kids, well in answer to that, why is it you don’t have time to copy and paste a few number but you do have the time to grace us with your life story?

This is by what I can tell the beginning of a project log (btw it is also in the wrong forum section) and therefore you should try and include information, if not for the people reading, then for yourself. Most of the reasons people post things on here is to get feedback and advice from people that have already done this before or have more experience in different areas/fields.


I just don’t seem to understand, why are you making this thread if you refuse to answer any questions, refuse to post details about the build etc. It looks to me the only thing you are posting are personal antidotes from your life history, if this is your intention, then again, this is the wrong section ;)
 
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Give the guy a break hes done a awsome job on his desk and hes stated loads of times he will be doing a build log when he gets all the parts he needs in.
 
Love the desk :)

I've always had a hankering to buy a TEC, just because they look fun to play around with. Think the most use I could make of one would be a beer cooler!

One thing to note on your rig is the on die temp diode doesn't work properly on Phenom IIs. I have an x6 1055t 95W edition and that reads ~15C lower than it should. These inaccuracies vary from chip to chip.

Download HWMonitor and check what it says for TMPIN0/1/2. Depending on what motherboard you have they are likely to be mobo temp, on package CPU temp (sensor under the heatspreader somewhere) and north bridge, something else or nothing (odd readings). You'll need to test by going from idle to full load and seeing how they change. The fastest to react should be the CPU temp to use. In my case it is TMPIN1.
 
It will all be starting soon,i have just had the power supply delivered in the post so all i am now waiting on is the blocks and Tec's to be completed and sent to me.Once they are all here I WILL be putting everything up....
I dont know how many times i have stated this,but there it is again.
Thankyou for your comments.
I approximate that i will have the blocks and Tec's here in the next week or so,after all they had the earthquake in NZ,so i am more than polite enough to wait for the guy who is making them, to regroup and get his stuff together to complete the blocks for me
 
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so i am more than polite enough to wait for...
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I'm still not understanding, honestly..

What is the point of this thread, and im not asking a nasty way, I am just curious why you created the thread if you don't want to talk about your project yet, and only seem to want to talk about the personality traits?

Or have I missed the point, and you dont know what Tecs you are using, what calculations you are using because the people in New Zealand are the ones doing that part, and have done the calculations and worked out what you need etc, thus you not having any involvment in that area, and not knowing the answers to these questions? If this is the case, then OK I understand (I guess) why you would need to wait until they arrive before quoting model names etc. However, did they not provide you with some sort of quote, which if they had you would have these details there, would you not?


Please understand, this is not an attack against you or your childern(lol) or your 'friends'. I am merely confused as to what point you are trying to convey? If this is not a project thread, then what is this thread regarding?

Thanks.
 
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