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i5 7500 or Ryzen 5 1400 for SFF?

GoogalyMoogaly

GoogalyMoogaly

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Hi,

So I'm thinking of building a SFF PC (probably in the Silverstone Milo ML08-H).
It'll hopefully be used for gaming.

Am I better off going for a H270 Mobo + i5 7500 or a B350 Mobo + Ryzen 5 1400?
Which one performs best in games?
Which one runs coolest (as CPU cooling will be limited (probably look to use stock cooler with either one)?

Also (and I realise this is the wrong section, but I didn't want to make 2 threads), what's the difference in the Intel B250 and H270 chipsets/motherboards? Also, what's the difference in the AMD B350 and X370 chipsets/motherboards? (Can you overclock on the B350?)

Thanks.
 
The R7 1600 is usually around the price of the i5 chips. I'd think you could get a good B350 mobo and 1600 or at least a 1500X.

Yeah you can overclock with a B350.
 
Will the 7500 and 8400 use the same socket? i.e. will I be able to drop the 8400 in the same motherboard?

1400 gives me 8 threads and comes with Quake Champions too.
Or the 1600, 65W and 6c/12t. But it is a bit more expensive. Do I really need hex core? Do I even need 8 threads?
 
The Intel 300 chipsets are only for the 8000 range of CPU's and will only see one generation of chips. A 8400 and Z370 system will probably cost double what your looking at.
 
jigger said:
A 8400 and Z370 system will probably cost double what your looking at.
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The price for the i5 8400 is pretty much confirmed at about £145 + VAT, and an entry level Z370 board should be about £100, slightly more then an H270

The lack of over clock will hurt the AMD option, Vs the high default clock of the Intel, which is another reason to choose Intel in this instance.

The AMD R5 1600 is a great CPU too, and you should be able to get it too 3.7GHz on all cores without altering the voltage, Ryzen did run pretty darn cool.
 
What is your price point for cpu, mb and ram together?

Is this system for carting back and forth to the work lan parties?
 
Scougar said:
What is your price point for cpu, mb and ram together?

Is this system for carting back and forth to the work lan parties?
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It is.
Currently the stuff I've been looking at is in the £400 region for CPU, mobo and RAM. But it depends what I can find really.

My next issue is that the case only has 58mm clearance for the CPU cooler, which is too big for the default cooler that comes with the 1500X and 1600. Also struggling to find an AM4 low profile cooler (under 58mm) that should be able to do the job.
 
jigger said:
Even if those prices appear it's still way more than a 1600 for a locked chip and a dead platform.
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You need to stop, and actually read what the OP wants. He is using a mini-ITX case, that is very low profile, and doesn't want to overclock due to the size of the case, and cooling available.

An R5 1600, with a decent B350 mITX board is circa £300-320, the comparative Intel setup will cost either slightly less, due to more Z-series mITX boards being available, or at worst about £10 more if the CPU ends up cost £200 instead of £175.

The Intel system will provide higher clocks without overclocking, and therefore higher performance, even if it missing SMT. I would also comment that yes, it is technically a dead end platform, as Intel are highly unlikely to release CPU's again on this socket, but we do not know if the OP is even interested in upgrading it in future, and suffering lower performance for the current time period.

GoogalyMoogaly said:
It is.
Currently the stuff I've been looking at is in the £400 region for CPU, mobo and RAM. But it depends what I can find really.

My next issue is that the case only has 58mm clearance for the CPU cooler, which is too big for the default cooler that comes with the 1500X and 1600. Also struggling to find an AM4 low profile cooler (under 58mm) that should be able to do the job.
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Something like a Noctua NH-L9i which is less than 40mm with the fan, leaving some clearance for the air flow into the fan will fit both 1151, and AM4. So it keeps your options open which ever platform you go for. :)
 
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Journey said:
You need to stop, and actually read what the OP wants. He is using a mini-ITX case, that is very low profile, and doesn't want to overclock due to the size of the case, and cooling available.

An R5 1600, with a decent B350 mITX board is circa £300-320, the comparative Intel setup will cost either slightly less, due to more Z-series mITX boards being available, or at worst about £10 more if the CPU ends up cost £200 instead of £175.

The Intel system will provide higher clocks without overclocking, and therefore higher performance, even if it missing SMT. I would also comment that yes, it is technically a dead end platform, as Intel are highly unlikely to release CPU's again on this socket, but we do not know if the OP is even interested in upgrading it in future, and suffering lower performance for the current time period.
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Not sure where you shop but it's expensive.
 
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jigger said:
Not sure where you shop but it's expensive.
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You mad 'cause I read the OP, and you just started spouting nonsense?

Cheapest R5 1600 in the UK is £187.odd and the cheapest mITX board with AM4 is £114, Now in normal maths that is over £300.
 
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Those arn't the best prices tho TBF the £80 Biostar board is out of stock.

Z370 ITX and 6 core i5 for sub £290 you say? Let's hope so.
 
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