If America Falls We Fall

jakesnake · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:08

i think people should take an interest in whats going on. the secretary of defence went into the american congress and declared that the US Military now get authority from the UN & NATO and will not consult congress about going to war. this clarifys that America has been hijacked and its going to get bad.

please watch and learn what this means.

Spenty · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:11

Doesn't matter how much you learn about it there's nothing we as individuals can do about it anyway.

Barbie · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:14

Might want to censor that .gif

King Damager · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:19

*puts on tinfoil hat*

The President is still the head of the United States Military.
Presidents have gone to war without Congress' approval before...

kd

jakesnake · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:26

Spenty said:
Doesn't matter how much you learn about it there's nothing we as individuals can do about it anyway.

everyone can get involved locally. that is where the true power is and should be at all times. the people know and should decide what they need in their areas and how they should be run. brussels should not dictate what goes on in your street. decentralization is so badly needed.

elmuzzy66. · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:31

Its the patriots, so metal gear was a true stroy after all.

bitslice · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:31

Down with this sort of thing :mad:

jakesnake · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:32

King Damager said:
*puts on tinfoil hat*

The President is still the head of the United States Military.
Presidents have gone to war without Congress' approval before...

kd

the president can only goto war if there is a sudden direct attack on the US. hes then only allowed to continue attacks for 90days and then has to get approval from congress to continue. the president is only the commander and chief when he is handed the declaration of war and the outlined mission from the congress.

congress controls the military in the constitution.

Obama going to war with the UN/NATO behind the back of congress is treason and espionage.

BarBrawllin · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:34

King Damager said:
*puts on tinfoil hat*

The President is still the head of the United States Military.
Presidents have gone to war without Congress' approval before...

kd

yeah but its just one step closer to the UN being the head of all the militarys in the world and a one world government

*takes off tinfoil hat*

i wouldnt be against a one world government though,i mean ours isnt doing much good is it? if all religion was banned for being the brainwashing cults that they are and treated in the same context as stories about hercules then i dont see the problem with a one world government as long as it worked for the people with no favouritism towards any nation,all men and women equal as brothers and sisters of mother earth. Also i think scientists(mathemeticians/physicists/biologists/chemists/geologists) should have more influence in how the world is run rather than some old fart in a suit who looks down his snooty nose on people.

jakesnake · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:40

The Senate called upon Caesar to resign his command and disband his army or risk being declared an "Enemy of the State". Pompey was entrusted with enforcing this edict - the foundation for civil war was laid.

It was January 49 BC, Caesar was staying in the northern Italian city of Ravenna and he had a decision to make. Either he acquiesced to the Senate's command or he moved southward to confront Pompey and plunge the Roman Republic into a bloody civil war. An ancient Roman law forbade any general from crossing the Rubicon River and entering Italy proper with a standing army. To do so was treason. This tiny stream would reveal Caesar's intentions and mark the point of no return.

this lead to the fall of the roman empire.

Americas gun sales have exploded in the last couple of years. the free man is arming himself. unlike us we are sitting ducks lol

VoG · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:41

bitslice said:
Down with this sort of thing

Careful now.

Cosimo · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:44

jakesnake said:
this lead to the fall of the roman empire.

That fell centuries ago and there isn't another empire at this present moment in time.

BarBrawllin · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:51

simulatorman said:
That fell centuries ago and there isn't another empire at this present moment in time.

i think you'll find there is an empire it just uses a lot of fancy terminology/proxies to cover up the fact it exists. how many militery bases does the USA have all over the world again? :rolleyes:

jakesnake · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:54

BarBrawllin said:
yeah but its just one step closer to the UN being the head of all the militarys in the world and a one world government*takes off tinfoil hat*

i wouldnt be against a one world government though,i mean ours isnt doing much good is it? if all religion was banned for being the brainwashing cults that they are and treated in the same context as stories about hercules then i dont see the problem with a one world government as long as it worked for the people with no favouritism towards any nation,all men and women equal as brothers and sisters of mother earth. Also i think scientists(mathemeticians/physicists/biologists/chemists/geologists) should have more influence in how the world is run rather than some old fart in a suit who looks down his snooty nose on people.

one world government is no secret now but a lot of people cant see it and may not want it.

if you think there will be no inside trading in a centralized government or "favourtism" as you called it, then your heads in the sand. corruption, insider trading and lobbying is already rampant.

Obama closed a lot of power stations in America because either him or close friends of him would benifit from it and their power stations would increase profits. also explain to me why insider corporations are immune from a lot of the Bureaucracy (red tape) that regular businesses get slammed with. this red tape causes these businesses to stop growing and eventually hurt them.

ng93 · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:56

I've nothing useful to add but here's a more family friendly version of the gif posted earlier that i've just made.

Puzzled · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:57

What is so shocking by what he said?

Of course the US military would rather go in as a coalition otherwise they'll be directly responsible for the damages & costs plus any further upset.

The only way you'll have a coalition is if some ground rules and agreements are put down on what is going to happen and then that is approved by other nations as not to cause further upset from surrounding nations.

The congressman asking the questions just seems to be implying that the US should never have to ask permission other than that of congress, which is just retarded if they want other nations to support the cause.

BarBrawllin · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:59

jakesnake said:
one world government is no secret now but a lot of people cant see it and may not want it.

if you think there will be no inside trading in a centralized government or "favourtism" as you called it, then your heads in the sand. corruption, insider trading and lobbying is already rampant.

Obama closed a lot of power stations in America because either him or close friends of him would benifit from it and their power stations would increase profits. also explain to me why insider corporations are immune from a lot of the Bureaucracy (red tape) that regular businesses get slammed with. this red tape causes these businesses to stop growing and eventually hurt them.

yeah this is the problem with it,if it was all setup with good intentions it could potentialy be the best thing that could happen for mankind,but on the flipside it could be like another form of communism. i wish the world would just get its act together and maybe feed those starving africans for once etc etc

it seems we have a balance of power where some nations need to be in poverty for us to sustain this lifestyle......its sick.

jakesnake · 21 Mar 2012 at 18:59

simulatorman said:
That fell centuries ago and there isn't another empire at this present moment in time.

The Constitution of the USA is the heart of freedom in this world. if its getting stabbed to death and replaced with centralized power and no rights! what good will come of it and where will the freeman go?

Cosimo · 21 Mar 2012 at 19:00

BarBrawllin said:
i think you'll find there is an empire it just uses a lot of fancy terminology/proxies to cover up the fact it exists. how many militery bases does the USA have all over the world again?

The empire term is used by all the silly conspiracy theorists. There isn’t one and they all know it. It’s just more claptrap from them.

BarBrawllin · 21 Mar 2012 at 19:04

simulatorman said:
The empire term is used by all the silly conspiracy theorists. There isn’t one and they all know it. It’s just more claptrap from them.

i know what your saying but i personaly feel there actualy is a diluted form of empire going on to at least a small degree,america has a lot of influence where it shouldnt and do bully/blackmail other nations to do things that are in their own interest and not ours(pushing geneticly modified crops politicly etc etc,look at the wikileaks data on that).they only help people who they can get a profit from,its nothing to do with real compassion for humanity.(we are also the same in this respect when it comes to government interventions in attrocities not just the USA the western world in general)