If America Falls We Fall

[jakesnake]

i think people should take an interest in whats going on. the secretary of defence went into the american congress and declared that the US Military now get authority from the UN & NATO and will not consult congress about going to war. this clarifys that America has been hijacked and its going to get bad.

please watch and learn what this means.

 

[jakesnake]

Doesn't matter how much you learn about it there's nothing we as individuals can do about it anyway.

everyone can get involved locally. that is where the true power is and should be at all times. the people know and should decide what they need in their areas and how they should be run. brussels should not dictate what goes on in your street. decentralization is so badly needed.

 

[jakesnake]

*puts on tinfoil hat*

The President is still the head of the United States Military.
Presidents have gone to war without Congress' approval before...

kd

the president can only goto war if there is a sudden direct attack on the US. hes then only allowed to continue attacks for 90days and then has to get approval from congress to continue. the president is only the commander and chief when he is handed the declaration of war and the outlined mission from the congress.

congress controls the military in the constitution.

Obama going to war with the UN/NATO behind the back of congress is treason and espionage.

 

[jakesnake]

The Senate called upon Caesar to resign his command and disband his army or risk being declared an "Enemy of the State". Pompey was entrusted with enforcing this edict - the foundation for civil war was laid.

It was January 49 BC, Caesar was staying in the northern Italian city of Ravenna and he had a decision to make. Either he acquiesced to the Senate's command or he moved southward to confront Pompey and plunge the Roman Republic into a bloody civil war. An ancient Roman law forbade any general from crossing the Rubicon River and entering Italy proper with a standing army. To do so was treason. This tiny stream would reveal Caesar's intentions and mark the point of no return.

this lead to the fall of the roman empire.

Americas gun sales have exploded in the last couple of years. the free man is arming himself. unlike us we are sitting ducks lol

 

[jakesnake]

yeah but its just one step closer to the UN being the head of all the militarys in the world and a one world government*takes off tinfoil hat*

i wouldnt be against a one world government though,i mean ours isnt doing much good is it? if all religion was banned for being the brainwashing cults that they are and treated in the same context as stories about hercules then i dont see the problem with a one world government as long as it worked for the people with no favouritism towards any nation,all men and women equal as brothers and sisters of mother earth. Also i think scientists(mathemeticians/physicists/biologists/chemists/geologists) should have more influence in how the world is run rather than some old fart in a suit who looks down his snooty nose on people.

one world government is no secret now but a lot of people cant see it and may not want it.

if you think there will be no inside trading in a centralized government or "favourtism" as you called it, then your heads in the sand. corruption, insider trading and lobbying is already rampant.

Obama closed a lot of power stations in America because either him or close friends of him would benifit from it and their power stations would increase profits. also explain to me why insider corporations are immune from a lot of the Bureaucracy (red tape) that regular businesses get slammed with. this red tape causes these businesses to stop growing and eventually hurt them.

 

[jakesnake]

That fell centuries ago and there isn't another empire at this present moment in time.

The Constitution of the USA is the heart of freedom in this world. if its getting stabbed to death and replaced with centralized power and no rights! what good will come of it and where will the freeman go?

 

[jakesnake]

yeah this is the problem with it,if it was all setup with good intentions it could potentialy be the best thing that could happen for mankind,but on the flipside it could be like another form of communism. i wish the world would just get its act together and maybe feed those starving africans for once etc etc

it seems we have a balance of power where some nations need to be in poverty for us to sustain this lifestyle......its sick.

good intentions

when government/police can raid you without warrents, when they can tap your phone without warrents, when they can declare any sort of emergency and take control of farms, equipment and remove your solar panels on your house. i think this is past being setup for good intentions dont you think.

its going to be a mixture of communism and capitalism. no rights for the regular worker and insiders with monopolys over all industry.

no thanks!

 

[jakesnake]

The empire term is used by all the silly conspiracy theorists. There isn’t one and they all know it. It’s just more claptrap from them.

what age are you? seriously!

 

[jakesnake]

What is so shocking by what he said?

Of course the US military would rather go in as a coalition otherwise they'll be directly responsible for the damages & costs plus any further upset.

The only way you'll have a coalition is if some ground rules and agreements are put down on what is going to happen and then that is approved by other nations as not to cause further upset from surrounding nations.

The congressman asking the questions just seems to be implying that the US should never have to ask permission other than that of congress, which is just retarded if they want other nations to support the cause.

no, im sorry, but your completly wrong. thats not whats being said at all! in the video. you should watch it over again.

 

[jakesnake]

This has started and its being blacked out of the media.



The impeachment of Barack Hussein Obama has begun. The Congressional resolution (H.Con.Res.107.IH) filed Wednesday, states that using offensive military force, without prior consent violates Congress’ express Constitutional power to declare war.

The impeachment process is as follows:

The Impeachment Process – In the House of Representatives

* The House Judiciary Committee will decide to proceed or not with impeachment.
* If they do, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee will propose a Resolution calling for the Judiciary Committee to begin a formal inquiry into the issue of impeachment.

Full Article here: http://www.usanewsfirst.com/2012/03/12/obama-impeachment-begins/

Take him down!!

 

[jakesnake]

Classic line



Hmmm, looking at that site, it appears to be for right wing nut cases...

It's published on the Governments own site, but perhaps the "media is kkeeping quiet about it", is because even Fox news knows it's got less legs than a snake, and they're normally quite happy to scream and shout about anything that might make Obama look bad.


Also it's worth looking it up for the details of the full bill and who is sponsoring it.



Now, I'm not a huge follower of American Politics, but AFAIK Obama hasn't actually used any offensive military forces other than those already involved thanks to his predecessor in the White House.

It's also fairly telling for the level of support he has for the bill, and it's likelyhood to succeed that he has zero co-sponsors for it.

the lack of co-sponsors i think represents how much of the government is bought off and the amount fear put into people who want to speak out and are for the constitution. hopefully tho this goes ahead and gathers some steam then hopefulllllllly people will start to come out of the woodwork.

 

[jakesnake]

The bill for the US president to go to war without congressional approval was actually passed when George Jnr was in office. So, this 'impeachment' is running a bit late and for the wrong person.

as far as im aware the President can only order an attack without congress approval when there is a direct attack on the US mainland. even then he can only engage for 90days then congress has to decide weather to carry on or not.

obama getting resolutions from the un/nato to rampage around in the middle east makes him a foreign puppet or a pysko!