Ignoring history to appease Muslims

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6517359.stm

Some schools avoid teaching the Holocaust and other controversial history subjects as they do not want to cause offence, research has claimed.
Teachers fear meeting anti-Semitic sentiment, particularly from Muslim pupils, the government-funded study by the Historical Association said.

It also said the way the slave trade was taught could leave both white and black children feeling alienated.

Ministers in England had asked for guidance on teaching emotive subjects.

When he commissioned the report last year, schools minister Lord Adonis said the national curriculum encouraged teachers to choose content "likely to resonate in their multicultural classrooms" - but some found it difficult to do that.

The Historical Association report claimed: "Teachers and schools avoid emotive and controversial history for a variety of reasons, some of which are well-intentioned.

"Staff may wish to avoid causing offence or appearing insensitive to individuals or groups in their classes.

"In particular settings, teachers of history are unwilling to challenge highly contentious or charged versions of history in which pupils are steeped at home, in their community or in a place of worship."

The report gave the example of a history department in a northern city which decided not to teach the Holocaust as a topic for GCSE coursework.

'Worrying picture'

It cited another school which taught the Holocaust, but then avoided teaching the Crusades because "balanced treatment" of the topic would have challenged what some local mosques were teaching.

Emotive issues such as the slave trade can be taught too blandly, portraying Afro-Caribbeans as victims and isolating black children, the report said.

But when teachers downplay the role of the white authorities in abolishing the slave trade, white children can become alienated.

The report called for resources, which were scarce at present, to be made available to teach controversial and emotional history subjects.

Initial teacher training should include more attention on how to teach these subjects and a better research base should be made available to teachers, it said.

And further research into the issue, particularly the attitudes of different groups, families and individuals' to difficult subjects, needed to be carried out.

A government review of citizenship education recommended that all pupils should learn about issues such as slavery and the legacy of the British Empire.

A Department of Education and Skills spokesman said there was scope for schools to make their own decision on what to teach within the national curriculum

But he added: "Teaching of the Holocaust is already compulsory in schools at KS3. It will remain so in the new KS3 curriculum from September 2008.

"As Alan Johnson made clear in January there are certain subjects which will be protected in the new curriculum and that includes the Holocaust."

A Commission for Racial Equality spokesman said the report painted a "worrying picture".

"The teaching of history provides the perfect forum for stimulating the development of shared values that are essential if everyone is to contribute and play a full part in an integrated British society."

It was essential that teachers were supported in developing the confidence and expertise to discuss all historical periods and events in a balanced and sensitive way, the spokesman said.
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One of the worst moments of PC idiocy yet...
 
@if ®afiq said:
Can that be shown to be true or is it just what you want to believe?
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Such a thing could be proven, although you may also note that Virii said 'perhaps', indicating that it is a possible scenario - therefore no proof needs to be provided for his statement to remain true, unless it were disproven. Can you disprove it?

How do you feel about this article, @if?
 
@if ®afiq said:
Looks like I misunderstood - but my point about the slant of the Beeb and the thread title used by CBS still stands.
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To keep it simple. I suppose I could have said 'minorities' but even that is potentially indecriptive as well.

Don't the MCB have issues with the holocaust? How many international Muslim figures want to revise accepted information on the holocaust?

It also says that biased information is being taught at local mosques
 
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zain said:
I find the both of you have very little points besides bashing Islam, some things the pair of you have mentioned over the months have some validity, but you both just have an agenda of stirring hate obviously thanks to a bad personal experience of you or a loved one.
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Based on personal observation, demographic trends and research. I am sorry if this concerns you, don't shoot the messenger.

This is not a Christian country, and we have made a lot of mistakes in the past because we once were. Anyone who does not wish to minimise organised religion clearly likes seeing others suffer.
 
zain said:
Then hatred gets stirred up and everytime a person looks at a Muslim all that runs through their mind is "THEY are trying to force religion on me", "THEY are criminals", etc.
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It's all in your head. No-one thinks that.

blacks have and still do expect from others.
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That's racist.




I HAVE answered your question zain, I'm more than willing to explain or field further questions...
 
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starscream said:
no evidence that any Muslims have actually called for such a move.
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Nor has it been claimed, although it has been stated that mosque's teaching of the subject show clear attitudes within the Muslims community.

To be honest, I think that it detracts from what is actually a good point because it will just attract the STAB :mad: crowd.
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I can't avoid the STAB crowd, or the Guardianistas - I just hope that replies will last more than a single sentence and involve a little reasoning or critical analysis.
 
Raz said:
Generally speaking, and knowing that there is a level of hypocrisy involved, most Muslim's aren't 'racist' (Israelis are a race?). We can call Israelis 'racist' in their treatment of Palestinians both in occupied territories and in Palestinian-held lands.

There's nothing stopping you from saying how Iran et al treat people from other backgrounds is also 'racist' as that doesn't negate the fact that Israel is a 'racist' state.
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I'd have to agree - I think that one thing that Islam doesn't do is sponsor racism. Religious violence yes, prejudice against religious and political beliefs yes, but not racism.
 
Raz said:
On the face of it, it is. As you no doubt are aware, this is to keep the Islamic faith growing. Still learning details about that so wont say too much. However, Islam restricts but isn't racists in the true sense of the word - any muslim can marry any other Muslim, though in practise it's not always the case...
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It's not racist but it is clearly discriminatory - just as Israel's attitude is and you have decried that attitude.

So do you think it is okay for Islam to practice discrimination but not Israel, or are you against discrimination or are you in favour?
 
Raz said:
I am a Muslim because I believe in God, and the Prophet and God's Message. The fact that I don't know something that isn't a fundamental belief doesn't stop me from being a Muslim - it just means that I can learn something new tomorrow. Stop throwing pathetic arguments my way, it doesn't do you any favours. Scientists believe in Science but don't know everything about science do they?
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Very true, but that is a compartively liberal viewpoint that many Muslims do not share.

Many Muslims (such as the MCB) wish Islam to be about obeying your fellow man rather than making personal decisions.

To take Islam as a personal philosophy is fine, but using religion as a good idea to decide politics and law is a generally poor idea.
 
Raz said:
which is where we disagree.
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Most Islamic countries are ****holes, including widespread abuse of human rights. It's not a co-incidence, compare a 'modern' Islamic country against a thousand year old Christian country. Just as brutal, just as dumb.
 
Raz said:
Most Islamic countries also mis-use or ignore Islamic laws/principles. But yes, you are correct.
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Although that does not mean that the situation would be any better should a 'strict' Islamic state be created.

What we can observe is that attempting to follow Islam politically turns your country into a ****hole...
 
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