i'm going to a shop in a 3 hrs, whats best phone

Robbie G said:
And what would you say if someone said they wanted a smartphone with good battery life, which is a more relevant question :confused:.

I don't know why you keep prattling on about phones that aren't even smartphones, try and at least stick to the subject of smartphones.
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I'm using them as an example of what good battery life is, isn't that obvious?

There's no such thing as a Smartphone with "good" battery life.

Until there's a Smartphone that can sync with a few social sites, a personal and work email account, with Bluetooth constantly on and last for over a week before needing to be charged - then I will consider it to have good battery life.

I don't see the point of buying a smartphone and turning off all the syncing and services, because that just defeats the purpose of the phone in the first place.

Also battery life is subjective, of course the iPhone4 battery life will be better - you don't have a cloud service that your phone is constantly syncing with.
 
Mekrel said:
Until there's a Smartphone that can sync with a few social sites, a personal and work email account, with Bluetooth constantly on and last for over a week before needing to be charged - then I will consider it to have good battery life.
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They could do it just, you'd need a friggin car battery. Its a trade of from size/weight to how long it lasts.
 
Mekrel said:
I'm using them as an example of what good battery life is, isn't that obvious?
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What's obvious, is that your examples are entirely irrelevant. Everything is relative, you have to consider good and bad battery life in the context of other comparable phones.

The iPhone 4 has a good battery life compared to the HTC Desire, even if your massive fanboy complex can't bring itself to admit that to be the case.
 
Robbie G said:
What's obvious, is that your examples are entirely irrelevant. Everything is relative, you have to consider good and bad battery life in the context of other comparable phones.

The iPhone 4 has a good battery life compared to the HTC Desire, even if your massive fanboy complex can't bring itself to admit that to be the case.
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Have you completely missed where I said, I had an iPhone? I loved my iPhone until I discovered there was something better out there.

I've openly admitted, there are positive points to the iPhone over the Desire (See my reply to Robboftw) so that's not being a fan boy.

It doesn't have a good battery life, it has a better battery life compared to the Desire, but again you're completely ignoring the fact that the Desire when fully configured to act like a Smartphone, will be doing more syncing in the background than the iPhone.

I like how you say everything is relative, yet you're willing to ignore the fact that it's unfair to measure the battery life of the Desire to the iPhone due to the amount of extra syncing the Desire does with the cloud. Yes this can be disabled but it would defeat the point of having a smart phone.
 
  • GMail (Push).
  • Google Calendar.
  • Google Contacts.
  • Facebook, pulls all data about contacts into contacts application. The iPhone will just pull data once (and only parts of profile information) and store it about a contact until updated manually. The Desire will keep this up to date.
  • FlickR - will pull contacts pictures into the contacts application, which will allow any Flickr albums to be loaded into the gallery appliaction at a touch of an album
  • Weather.
  • Stocks.

All of those are default, before you've even added Twitter, Exchange account etc.
 
brummie said:
How much syncing does it do?
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Due to the nature of the SenseUI that is on the majority of HTC handsets to get the maximum you need to turn on syncing. In the background it does the following:

1) Sync phone contacts with google contacts
2) Take any google contacts (off gmail etc) and transfer them to the phone
3) Keep updated with your flickr account
4) Keep any contact information on facebook and twitter updated in your contacts list
5) Checks your gmail account (and any other push services)
6) Syncs your calendar with the google calendar (If you update via the PC it automatically goes across to the phone)
7) If you use it, update your location in footprints regularly
8) Update facebook. If you have the app open, then it updates tgat regularly, if not then it updates friendstream if your using that widget. Also, SenseUI uses the status updates in your contacts list.
9) Regularly update any other widgets such as BBC news etc
10) Update weather widgets
11) Sync clock to make sure its correct
12) Update stocks regularly

I know theres more but thats all I can think of for now.
 
Opps, thought the sync question was related to the battery discussion :o

Mekrel said:
Syncing costs a lot of battery, run battery graph and look at the battery drain with auto sync on vs off.
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No doubt but I meant the overall power drain, my desire lasts about 4 hours with constant web browsing (3G), or about 2 days with several accounts synced and no browsing.
 
why dont you all just turn contact syncing off ? then when you make a change to your contacts just press sync....

or is that too easy ?
 
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