Injury at work Question

red eye · 23 Nov 2017 at 00:04

Say if you were to have an accident which resulted in 7 week sick note, an accident that could have been prevented if provided with the right equipment and in a roundabout sort of way you been told that your only getting ssp.

Also it’s evident that risk assessment has not done properly, safety guards removed, wrong type of ppe issued,Accident book as probably not been filled out or reported under riddor.

I’m asking for a friends next door nabours brothers cat.

Would you seek compensation?
What are the downsides?
Never done this before so I don’t know what to expect

TNGL · 23 Nov 2017 at 00:06

red eye said:
Say if you were to have an accident which resulted in 7 week sick note, an accident that could have been prevented if provided with the right equipment and in a roundabout sort of way you been told that your only getting ssp.

Also it’s evident that risk assessment has not done properly, safety guards removed, wrong type of ppe issued,Accident book as probably not been filled out or reported under riddor.

I’m asking for a friends next door nabours brothers cat.

Would you seek compensation?
What are the downsides?
Never done this before so I don’t know what to expect

Next door what?

Being a cat, I'd definitely **** through their letter box.

MissChief · 23 Nov 2017 at 00:10

red eye said:
Say if you were to have an accident which resulted in 7 week sick note, an accident that could have been prevented if provided with the right equipment and in a roundabout sort of way you been told that your only getting ssp.

Also it’s evident that risk assessment has not done properly, safety guards removed, wrong type of ppe issued,Accident book as probably not been filled out or reported under riddor.

I’m asking for a friends next door nabours brothers cat.

Would you seek compensation?
What are the downsides?
Never done this before so I don’t know what to expect

If all the above is true I'd be reporting them to HSE.

miller745 · 23 Nov 2017 at 00:11

Will the cat have any problems/difficulties years down the line resulting from this accident? Is the cat in a union?

Efour · 23 Nov 2017 at 00:15

red eye · 23 Nov 2017 at 01:00

miller745 said:
Will the cat have any problems/difficulties years down the line resulting from this accident? Is the cat in a union?

Doc says it will be fine but also gave me an open appointment should I need it, back at work light duties for 4 weeks so no bonus. Cat is in a union joined up two weeks ago

Lordgrayone · 23 Nov 2017 at 01:04

Not given the correct ppe and knew it was wrong but did they job and got injured doing it.
Not the smartest cat in the litter then heh?

red eye · 23 Nov 2017 at 01:04

MissChief said:
If all the above is true I'd be reporting them to HSE.

This should be looked into while I give my side of the story I would have thought.

red eye · 23 Nov 2017 at 01:10

Lordgrayone said:
Not given the correct ppe and knew it was wrong but did they job and got injured doing it.
Not the smartest cat in the litter then heh?

in this case it was right equipment was not provided. Wrong ppe was issued for different equipment.

red eye · 23 Nov 2017 at 01:15

Tingle said:
Next door what?

Being a cat, I'd definitely **** through their letter box.

Nabougourh damit the house next door

Yes, a curly wet one under car door handle

RaohNS · 23 Nov 2017 at 07:55

A woman whom I used to work last week was awarded over £13,000.

She tripped over a box in a hallway, fell over bumped her knee that then swelled up. She was off work with it for the rest of the week.

A friends sister was involved in a serious car crash 2years ago resulting in multiple operations (caused by a ******** driving too fast and hitting the stationary vehicle at around 60 in a 30). He had to pay a £60 fine meanwhile despite all her injuries (multiple breaks, MH and general pains etc) the insurer has so far only coughed up £7,000 or so but has been out of work since then (note she was due to start a £30k a year job at the time)

Justice is apparently not just blind but stupid

m4rmite · 23 Nov 2017 at 08:19

Ask for written proof of risk assessments, standard operating procedures for the work being carried out.
Are near misses recorded to help prevent accidents? Why not.
Was accident book filled out. If not why not.
Were you trained in carrying out the task and it's documented and you have signed a training matrix to say you have been trained and understood it.
If there is a union at your work as it doesn't sound like they push for all of these bog standard requirements.
Or they just know it's easy to win with none of the above in place.

Get a claim in..

red eye · 23 Nov 2017 at 10:13

m4rmite said:
Ask for written proof of risk assessments, standard operating procedures for the work being carried out.
Are near misses recorded to help prevent accidents? Why not.
Was accident book filled out. If not why not.
Were you trained in carrying out the task and it's documented and you have signed a training matrix to say you have been trained and understood it.
If there is a union at your work as it doesn't sound like they push for all of these bog standard requirements.
Or they just know it's easy to win with none of the above in place.

Get a claim in..

To me the risk assessments seem nonexistent.

If I make a claim the money will help but what about carrying on working there?

I Don’t plan to stay long term but sometimes plans don’t always work out, I don’t want working there to be unpleasant long term. This is the only thing stopping me from picking up the phone.

Raumarik · 23 Nov 2017 at 10:21

I'd I had access to the risk assessment, area and book I'd be taking photos of those unless a policy prohibited it.

then yeah id be onto the HSE to whistleblow over it

[FnG]magnolia · 23 Nov 2017 at 10:21

red eye said:
I Don’t plan to stay long term but sometimes plans don’t always work out, I don’t want working there to be unpleasant long term. This is the only thing stopping me from picking up the phone.

It sounds like you're looking for a payout but don't want to upset the people who will pay you. You probably need to make a call on which one of these two things you want to do.

red eye · 23 Nov 2017 at 10:22

RaohNS said:
A woman whom I used to work last week was awarded over £13,000.

She tripped over a box in a hallway, fell over bumped her knee that then swelled up. She was off work with it for the rest of the week.

A friends sister was involved in a serious car crash 2years ago resulting in multiple operations (caused by a ******** driving too fast and hitting the stationary vehicle at around 60 in a 30). He had to pay a £60 fine meanwhile despite all her injuries (multiple breaks, MH and general pains etc) the insurer has so far only coughed up £7,000 or so but has been out of work since then (note she was due to start a £30k a year job at the time)

Justice is apparently not just blind but stupid

13k for a bruised knee, I should be getting quite a bit then.

That’s really ****ty about your friends sister. My friend was in an accident last month he got £2000 for banging his head on the door window and whiplash.

Avenged7Fold · 23 Nov 2017 at 10:22

What actually happen, do you share at least some of the blame?

You have to remember that you will seem a lot less appealing to hire if you come across as someone who looks to blame their company or someone looking for a bit of a payout. Not an issue if you plan to move on and don't need the reference but i will add that some of the smaller industries where people seem to know each-other, claims like this can be fairly damaging.

Glaucus · 23 Nov 2017 at 10:26

depends on the company, however, if its a large company, this generally doesn't cause any issue and you will find many people have made claims.

red eye · 23 Nov 2017 at 10:42

[FnG]magnolia said:
It sounds like you're looking for a payout but don't want to upset the people who will pay you. You probably need to make a call on which one of these two things you want to do.

Tbh I wasn’t thinking of putting a claim in if it wasn’t for that comment about me only getting ssp.
I’m not bothered about who I upset, I just don’t want my life to get more difficult.
Although with a little super high tec covert servalience I could squeeze another claim out of them.

Making a claim would only benefit me financially short term, but benefit every one long term by safer working conditions. I think going to take one for the team.

I made a phone call it has not been reported under riddor.

Ok guys if your an employer would rather an employee make a claim or talk to you with a demand of a nice pay rise and heath and safety issues fixed?

m4rmite · 23 Nov 2017 at 10:49

Would they listen to you and implement any changes? or give you your wages instead of ssp and carry on as normal.
Any discrimination after you put a claim in make them aware you are recording/ writing down anything that is said to you.
If they do discriminate then they had no intention of raising the standards at your work anyway.