Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread

[Robert896r1]

The lack of emphasis on the fact that it’s a socket change that will require a new mother board should speak volumes.

 

[LePhuronn]

AMD overpriced and underdeveloped lineup

Seriously, stop crying already. You were the Chief Conductor of the Ryzen 3000 hype train for a long-ass time, yet the second they didn't release 16 cores at $50 like in AdoredTV's year-old information you started banging on like AMD had raped your favourite pet.

Give your brain a rest and focus on something more healthy.

 

[LePhuronn]

@Zeed is this what happened to your mate's rig? Was he trying to overclock an engineering sample of these 10 core beasts?

 

[4K8KW10]

Seriously, stop crying already. You were the Chief Conductor of the Ryzen 3000 hype train for a long-ass time, yet the second they didn't release 16 cores at $50 like in AdoredTV's year-old information you started banging on like AMD had raped your favourite pet.

Give your brain a rest and focus on something more healthy.

True, except the conductor was the Adored guy. But you are right. I will keep my money for myself, skip this generation altogether and everyone will be happy.

Seriously, though. Forget the AMD's idea to throw at us hexa-cores for 200 quid! I am not going to buy a CPU which will be obsolete once I play my game, it utilises all of its cores, and Windows decides to update. This will mean I will no longer be able to run the game.

 

[Orange Nexus]

True, except the conductor was the Adored guy. But you are right. I will keep my money for myself, skip this generation altogether and everyone will be happy.

Seriously, though. Forget the AMD's idea to throw at us hexa-cores for 200 quid! I am not going to buy a CPU which will be obsolete once I play my game, it utilises all of its cores, and Windows decides to update. This will mean I will no longer be able to run the game.

You know you can stop Windows from updating, right? Or at least delay it to a time you are not gaming. But if you have an intel system, that might be a bad idea. NVM, forget it.

 

[LePhuronn]

except the conductor was the Adored guy

Oh, so it's Jim's fault you're salty? Not defending Adored here, but if you took his information about Ryzen 3000 and Navi as gospel then you're an utter fool. His information was months old before he even posted! Go jump on the Redditor that posted similar information independently.

Goalposts shift all the time, directions change, products change and ultimately things end up differently than anticipated. It's long discussed that AMD pitched Ryzen 3000 at Intel's 10nm products and would have pushed the clocks to the moon and dropped the prices to be competitive. But Intel never made it there and suddenly AMD find themselves massively outperforming the actual products they're competing against. So they dialled back and made the best of their new found position. And sweet, sweet money.

So yeah, evil AMD didn't give us the £200 12 cores at 5GHz that they easily can because they decided to make money instead.

 

[Zeed]

@Zeed is this what happened to your mate's rig? Was he trying to overclock an engineering sample of these 10 core beasts?

ye needed tad moar volts lol

 

[4K8KW10]

You know you can stop Windows from updating, right? Or at least delay it to a time you are not gaming.

So, I should make compromises because AMD wants to make money meanwhile?! Doesn't sound too fair, does it?

Oh, so it's Jim's fault you're salty?

Nope. It's because AMD are trolling us very hard.

Here are the new Ryzen lineup drawbacks:

1. No availability = paper launch
2. Could be cheaper
3. Still not as fast as Core i in gaming
4. PBO and manual overclocking yield no significant gains
5. Boost doesn't maximize low-threaded clock potential
6. BIOS bugs

 

[esoteric]

So, I should make compromises because AMD wants to make money meanwhile?! Doesn't sound too fair, does it?



Nope. It's because AMD are trolling us very hard.

Here are the new Ryzen lineup drawbacks:

1. No availability = paper launch
2. Could be cheaper
3. Still not as fast as Core i in gaming
4. PBO and manual overclocking yield no significant gains
5. Boost doesn't maximize low-threaded clock potential
6. BIOS bugs

All those "cons" yet Intel admit they won't catch up to AMD until 2021, so how bad of a spot is Intel in. https://www.reddit.com/r/AyyMD/comments/cesylu/intel_admits_it_wont_catch_up_with_amds_7nm_chips/

 

[silk186]

Still on PCIe 3.0, when AMD is already releasing 4.0?

 

[thenewoc]

So, I should make compromises because AMD wants to make money meanwhile?! Doesn't sound too fair, does it?



Nope. It's because AMD are trolling us very hard.

Here are the new Ryzen lineup drawbacks:

1. No availability = paper launch
2. Could be cheaper
3. Still not as fast as Core i in gaming
4. PBO and manual overclocking yield no significant gains
5. Boost doesn't maximize low-threaded clock potential
6. BIOS bugs

7. no 7nm APUs or APUs above 4 core

 

[4K8KW10]

https://www.techpowerup.com/258547/...latform-require-you-guessed-it-a-new-platform

 

[Dicehunter]

Q1 2020 sounds about right for the next series of desktop chips, The 9900KS 5GHz all core boost is apparently coming out around next month or so which will be a nice middle road until the new stuff comes out in Q1.

 

[Robert896r1]

A new socket on 14+++++? Charlie Sheen levels of winning.

125w advertised? Lol

Winter release so you can heat up your house cheaply. Just need to add big Navi to the rig and you can cook on your PC also.

 

[4K8KW10]

A new socket on 14+++++? Charlie Sheen levels of winning.

125w advertised? Lol

Winter release so you can heat up your house cheaply. Just need to add big Navi to the rig and you can cook on your PC also.

Well, at least the leaked lineup shows a 65W 10-core i9-10800F, here I come

 

[muon]

Comet Lake isn't Sunny Cove right?

Intel are screwed if they think taking Coffeelake and adding two more cores is all they need to do in 2020.

 

[4K8KW10]

Comet Lake isn't Sunny Cove right?

Yup, Comet Lake will have the same, current cores that are present from Skylake onwards.

Intel are screwed if they think taking Coffeelake and adding two more cores is all they need to do in 2020.

Everything depends on the prices and power consumption. There is no bad product, there is bad pricing.

AMD's 12-core CPU is in limited supply and its price for an AMD CPU is too high, so no competition if intel offers a 10-core 65W for 410$, £333.99.

 

[Destination]

Some bits of this don't seem right at all.
Why a new socket when the socket provides nothing new?
No PCIe4?

10 cores 135W ?
we knew the 9900k is 95W and eats > 170W when overclocking
so this 10 core will eat 240W ?

Interesting their power delivery quotes.
This all seems rather hopeless.
@4K8KW10 I might be missing stuff, but where do you see the 10 core at 65W?
Is there a non hyperthread version or something?

 

[4K8KW10]

@4K8KW10 I might be missing stuff, but where do you see the 10 core at 65W?
Is there a non hyperthread version or something?

Nope, it's just with conservative clocking 2.7GHz base and 5.0GHz boost. First post of the thread - first image.

 

[Destination]

ah i see it now, thanks.
Very AMD like on their clocking business, that low clock seems particularly low, almost server style.
granted it'll be £400 here one should think if that still it true.