Intel Cannonlake, Cascade Lake, Ice Lake, Tiger Lake & Sapphire Rapid thread

[TheF34RChannel]

Another milestone for 10nm: Cannon Lake on track and we’ve now taped in Ice Lake, our 2nd-generation 10nm product.

https://twitter.com/intelnews/status/872844756845379584

(if twitter is good enough for Trumpy, it's good enough for me ugh)

Ice Lake launching in H2-2018 is a real possibility, maybe as soon as August-September (1 year after Coffee Lake-S 'K'). Also heard they taped in recently, not only 'now'.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Sounds good to me, new socket again i suppose?

In all likelihood, yes. Z400 and 500 series, respectively. Ice Lake-X may be very tasty, with its mainstream predecessor being an all newly designed chip instead of riding the SB train. It should still be 1151 but what revision?

 

[TheF34RChannel]

So when is Cannonlake due? before or after cofffeelake?

After. Coffee Lake - Cannonlake - Ice Lake - Tiger Lake

 

[TheF34RChannel]

When is the first main stream 6 core cpu with 12 threads?

CFL-S, definitely in August in Z370, with Z390 and additional CPUs coming out early next year.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

There a chance that it will be backwards compatible. Engineering samples have been spotted running on the 200 series (Kaby Lake) chipset. After all it is just a further refinement of the same thing.
https://www.techpowerup.com/232677/...-likely-compatible-with-lga-1151-motherboards

Didn't they say in a presentation that it needs a new chipset?

 

[TheF34RChannel]

http://wccftech.com/intel-ice-lake-processors-taped-in/

They haven't even released x299 socket yet or Coffeelake or Cannonlake

The latter will only be a low power mobile part so for 10nm we're looking at Ice Lake. It probably also means no Cannonlake-X but likely the 14nm+ Cascade Lake-X instead, in turn leading nicely into either 14nm++ Coffeelake-X or 10nm(+?) Ice Lake-X.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Added Cascade Lake to the thread line; with no X lines for CNL and CFL coming, Intel may turn their LGA3647 Cascade Lake-SP Xeons into the next HEDT platform; easier than anything else.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Another GeekBench entry found just now:

Coffee Lake-U / Cannon Lake-U Geekbench 3 Score

https://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/8393354

The very first 14nm++ CFL-U results, quite a bit early for a product launching in 2018. Apparently there's a dual-core SKU as well, not only quad-cores - though both should pack GT3e graphics (Iris Plus 740/750). Base clock is up by 800 MHz (32%) compared to Core i7-7660U (assuming it's 15W).

Edit: BIOS suggests it could be Cannon Lake-U (Intel Corporation CNLSFWR1.R00.X086.D00.1705141926). If that's the case, 3.3 GHz is a nice bump from Core i7-7600U (2.8 GHz) as well, not bad for their first 10 nm implementation.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Which will be followed by Intel 2nd gen on 10 but amd on 7, so? Is anbody winning the future?

Again, Intel's 10nm is similar to GloFo's 7nm.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

The same as performance, architecture etc and yet you keep comparing them when suits you. What's the point of your comparison how fail for AMD is at 14nm, compared to intel's 10? I can have it on 50 and all that matters is performance, power draw etc.

I suspect you aren't talking to me?

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Xeon Scalable Processor “Skylake-SP” detailed

NDA ends today at 9:15 AM PDT. No comments, just slides.

More: https://videocardz.com/70874/intels-epyc-response-xeon-scalable-processor-skylake-sp

 

[TheF34RChannel]

I counted 58 SKUs
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-epyc-7000-cpu-battle-of-the-decade/7

Maximum segmentation by Intel.

I don't see the need for that many personally. Most of these won't sell a single one.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Guys come on; this is an Intel and not an AMD thread. Last time I'd like to ask or else I'll close it down. All this Intel vs AMD has become so boring.

Let's just all be happy with the healthy and much needed competition.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Indeed - please try and keep it on topic - if you want to discuss AMD, then there are threads for that.

Thanks very much!

 

[TheF34RChannel]

How well do the new 8 core Intel match up against Ryzen? Looking for a new build next week. Will be a gaming machine @ 4K.

May I direct you to here: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/amd-threadripper-vs-intel-skylake-x.18781534/

They said, if you're building a gaming rig stay on the mainstream platform without the cache and mesh restructuring (= poor game performance). The 6C/12T Coffee Lake-S appears to be shaping up nicely for that purpose, and you don't need 8C anyway.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Its funny to think that a group of people probably celebrated when they finalised this mess of a product stack

Well data centres have an entirely different view on these things, but still I cannot imagine all SKUs have a purpose.

I mean, what!?

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Added Sapphire Rapid (7nm server, 2020) to the thread.