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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

1080p is important to test cpu limits. AMD fans complained about the same with 720p test in 2017 where Skylake obliterated Bulldozer. Is a pretty good indicator of CPU longevity. Right now Zen5 3D has a potential longer lifespan than ARL…
 
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1080p is important to test cpu limits. AMD fans complained about the same with 720p test in 2017 where Skylake obliterated Bulldozer. Is a pretty good indicator of CPU longevity. Right now Zen5 3D has a potential longer lifespan than ARL…
It depends on CPU usage, current Intel chips tend to have more cores. Future software will probably make more use of the extra cores. It would be interesting to see how Bulldozer does against Skylake now.
 
Who the heck plays at 1080p these days?
Have you heard anything like competitive gaming? I am not referring to Super Mario, Alan Wake or Civilization type of games. It's crazy how people get pursued easily by the Nvidia & AMD adverts to make a purchase. Let's go 4K now! Without a proper display port bandwidth. No 10-Bit support but, only DSC. Just to have it, right?:)

I am waiting for 7 years to upgrade my monitor from 1080p. I will only do that if DisplayPort 2.1a (80Gbps) becomes available with RTX 5090.

Being said that Nvidia, AMD and display producers wouldn't be rich if there would be no early adopters.
 
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I highly doubt most of those people have anything like an AMD 7000 series let alone a 9800X3D or a 4000 series GPU though.

A lot of that is probably people playing on laptops with 5+ year old specs.
Yeah, no point having hardware like that if your gaming at 1080P
 
It depends on CPU usage, current Intel chips tend to have more cores. Future software will probably make more use of the extra cores. It would be interesting to see how Bulldozer does against Skylake now.
Precisely. An 8/12 thread Skylake is still a viable CPU, Bulldozer isn’t. Not making the same comparison, ARL is closer (in some areas even ahead) to Zen5 than Bulldozer ever was to SKL.

I’m 90% sure ARL will have easily a 5 year lifespan. But the 9800X3D is starting to look like the i7-3770K.
 
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Precisely. An 8/12 thread Skylake is still a viable CPU, Bulldozer isn’t. Not making the same comparison, ARL is closer (in some areas even ahead) to Zen5 than Bulldozer ever was to SKL.

I’m 90% sure ARL will have easily a 5 year lifespan. But the 9800X3D is starting to look like the i7-3770K.
At the time, Bulldozer was competing against the Intel quad core's, bit of a cheat to compare it to the 8 core that probably cost 2x and was a HEDT platform.
 
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At the time, Bulldozer was competing against the Intel quad core's, bit of a cheap to compare it to the 8 core that probably cost 2x and was a HEDT platform.
I’m purely speaking about the architecture without any other consideration. Bulldozer was a bad CPU and a bad investment. ARL is imo a good CPU -not excellent by any means- and a bad investment at these prices.
 
I’m purely speaking about the architecture without any other consideration. Bulldozer was a bad CPU and a bad investment. ARL is imo a good CPU -not excellent by any means- and a bad investment at these prices.
Bulldozer was a bad CPU, for me, power consumption and heat was the main reason I did not get one. It was the same when I did my last upgrade, 13900K was hot and power hungry though performance was very good. I went with AMD but it was a close call. ARL looks good to me, I want one just to play around with but I would not get one for my work PC, too much risk at the moment.
 
id like to see some number around this, and the extra CPU load power usage
Not when you frame cap it, my 4090 draws less quite a bit less power in games like Destiny 2 or The Division 2 than what my 3090 did as the 4090 is able to reach my 4K 120fps cap much easier, so less power, less heat and a quieter system. For the 5090 my power draw in the same games should be even lower. If max the card out in newer games or ones that need path tracing then yes my power draw will be the same or more, but a faster card is great for older games if you want a quieter air cooled system.
 
Aren't the steam stats heavily swayed by developing countries?
Is there a way to see the stats for 'proper' countries?

I've been asking for a country filter for years but Valve has no interested in making the hardware survey more usable or transparent.

I'm sure if we can filter by country we'd see a huge discrepancy in the average PC and average monitor between the 1st and 3rd world
 
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