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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

I still think the Core i5 8400 is the best deal of the bunch at launch - if you can run the CPU at all cores Turbo with a £20 to £30 cooler,it will be a solid gaming CPU.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I still think the Core i5 8400 is the best deal of the bunch at launch - if you can run the CPU at all cores Turbo with a £20 to £30 cooler,it will be a solid gaming CPU.
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Yeah good looking chip. Possibly the E3 replacement, but I had an interesting chat with someone about those. Lets wait and see.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I still think the Core i5 8400 is the best deal of the bunch at launch - if you can run the CPU at all cores Turbo with a £20 to £30 cooler,it will be a solid gaming CPU.
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I agree, I still think intel should have unlocked all CPU's now though.
Seems a little silly now that ryzen has the entire range unlocked.
 
Regarding the PCI-E Lanes - will it be enough to run a GPU and an NVMe drive?

I'm pretty excited to finally be getting a new PC, although worried about being on Holiday when they drop. I also have no idea what board to get - my current Gigabyte H55N ITX has served me well over the years!
 
HaroldSaxon said:
Regarding the PCI-E Lanes - will it be enough to run a GPU and an NVMe drive?

I'm pretty excited to finally be getting a new PC, although worried about being on Holiday when they drop. I also have no idea what board to get - my current Gigabyte H55N ITX has served me well over the years!
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Yes that will run fine, we have no idea on board yet though they are pretty much the same as the z270 boards so I'd base it off that or wait until some actual reviews are up.
 
If you buy one of the non-K chips can you run all cores at the single core turbo speed? When I built my Dad a Haswell machine a few years back his Asus H97 motherboard allowed it. Is that still the case?

edit: Oops, just read 3 posts up! Ignore me :D Well that's a shame.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
First review of Intel Core i7-8700K leaks out

https://videocardz.com/72915/first-review-of-intel-core-i7-8700k-leaks-out

No ipc increase.
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Kinda irrelevant though, they will still sell truckloads of these especially if they hit 5ghz easily enough without too much heat, yeah delidding is going to be the norm as it is currently with high end Intel..

Fact is 7700k is king of gaming right now, 8700k is going to replace it was you get more cores which is starting to get adopted into games engines, next year Intel will release an 8 core version which will replace this 8700k is my bet.

I was all set on getting Ryzen for myself, i will now be going 8700k and giving the Ryzen to my kids :) if AMD pull it around next year with a Zen refresh or Zen 2 i will have the luxury of both AMD and Intel rigs at home, i can swap them around as i see fit.
 
HaroldSaxon said:
Regarding the PCI-E Lanes - will it be enough to run a GPU and an NVMe drive?

I'm pretty excited to finally be getting a new PC, although worried about being on Holiday when they drop. I also have no idea what board to get - my current Gigabyte H55N ITX has served me well over the years!
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Intel uses chipset PCI-E lanes for the M.2 slots, so unless you use one of those PCI-E to M.2 add-in cards, you shouldn't eat into the 16 PCI-E dGPU lanes.
The Z370 chipset has 24 PCI-E lanes that are used for various I/O, the only downside is that if you try to RAID multiple NVMe SSDs, you might encounter the DMI 3.0 chipset to CPU link bottleneck (but NVMe RAID is pretty serious overkill to begin with).
 
So the Chipset has more pci-e lanes... lol, and 40? This is a direct shot at attempting to spec match with the higher end platform, make it look like Intel is giving you the HEDT platform pci-e bonus to make it seem like a cheaper alternative to Threadripper in effect. But they are just off the chipset, which is still bound by the DMI which is, is it still equivalent to a 4x pci-e lane?

There are basically no situations for the consumer market that a large number of pci-e connections on a chipset has any real world advantage when you have such a bandwidth limitation between cpu and chipset.

For me, I can't see basically any performance difference going from a bog standard 400mb/s ssd to a 2.3gb/s nvme drive in terms of load speeds, snappy response time in windows, etc. Raid becomes a bit pointless outside of hdd benchmarks which of all benchmarking may be the most boring and pointless and the only one that will actually reduce the lifespan of your hardware.

The chipset has afaik, just under 4GB/s of transfer speed, meaning it would saturate without even maxing out 2 drives, so having the pci-e connections for 6 4x drives off the chipset is not particularly useful, certainly not on a consumer platform. This would be more useful on a server that wanted quick access on the data it needs but not many users and only accessing 1 or 2 drives at a time, even in server/professional use such a system would be rarely required.

Basically the only reason to jack up pci-e connections on the chipset is to be able to advertise a large number of pci-e connections on the platform when 95% of buyers have on clue that most of them are effectively pointless.
 
rip Ryzen...

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As a part time streamer, this is looking like a decent upgrade for my 6700K.. IF these leaks are correct.

I already have Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200Mhz DDR4 so just the board and chip to upgrade for £500 at most.

Edit.. I might need to upgrade my PSU though, just to be on the safe side :)
 
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