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Really?? Mate has a RX570 and a £100 FreeSync monitor and it has no flickering at all??
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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017
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Really?? Mate has a RX570 and a £100 FreeSync monitor and it has no flickering at all??
Only the samsung models iirc. More of a joke than a statement
*Turns out its quite a few models*
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5721lj/has_the_freesync_flicker_ever_gone_away_100/
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To be honest the cash you would save buying a Ryzen CPU and god forbid a Vega 56 instead of an 8700K + 1080, you could pretty much buy a Freesync screen with the cash you saved, lower fps? who cares your getting adaptive sync gaming baby
I bought Ryzen, second hand 1080 and second hand rog swift. Works great.
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Only the samsung models iirc. More of a joke than a statement
*Turns out its quite a few models*
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5721lj/has_the_freesync_flicker_ever_gone_away_100/
Both myself and my brother have the BenQ 1440p 144hz Freesync screen, when i had my 290 i never once saw any flickering, obviously as im running a 1070 on it currently i dont get the adaptive sync, which i have to say i miss a lot, soon as the aftermarket Vega cards come along i will be swapping back to one of those. No not that horrendous pile of junk that Asus has lobbed out, lets not even go there
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Only the samsung models iirc. More of a joke than a statement
*Turns out its quite a few models*
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5721lj/has_the_freesync_flicker_ever_gone_away_100/
Not heard anything back from him about flickering - he is not an enthusiast so I am sure he would have harranged me for tech support otherwise!!
Edit!!
If you want to cherry pick things you can look for GSync flickering too:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/632e3x/gsync_flicker/
Not heard anything back from him about flickering - he is not an enthusiast so I am sure he would have harranged me for tech support otherwise!!
Edit!!
If you want to cherry pick things you can look for GSync flickering too:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/632e3x/gsync_flicker/
I'm not cherry picking it was the first hit on Google lol. It does seem to be Samsung affected the most, given as they supply a lot of panels to other manufacturers that would explain why it's not just one brand.
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It doesn't to me - looking at the pricing,meh. I still remember when a top end consumer Core i7 was between £200 to £250. I could get a 4C/8T Xeon E3 for around £170 to £180. In todays lineup that would be like a locked 6C/12T Core i7 with no IGP for under £200.
Its why I am likely to avoid Coffee Lake and Ryzen MK1 if I can - I expect with Zen 2 and Cannonlake/Icelake core counts might go up further,so it will mean 6C/12T will be pushed down the stack a bit more.
Will see how the 6C Core i5 fares though. A bit annoying if all cores Turbo has been dropped!!
Its is TBH - that page was also on the first lot of search results too. You do realise that the panels are shared between FreeSync and GSync monitors - it will be the scaler which is different.
In the end you need to do what you do with any monitor - look at individual reviews. Just because a monitor has a badge from one or more companies means nothing nowadays.
Phillips are meh nowadays,but when I bought my last monitor they made decent stuff and the monitor lasted nearly 10 years,but things change so its not the same anymore.
Ram is also more expensive now, as are a lot of things. A different way to look at it is last years i7 costs the same as this years with 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads. Yeah, intel have killed off the xeon in mainstream boards and that seems to only be about cost.
Zen 2 isn't out till 2019 according to that slide, and thats not even the 7nm 5ghz one that people actually want.
It seems the GPU is at fault in regards to samsung being the issue, vega doesn't have the issue I mentioned : https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3028-samsung-cf791-freesync-flicker-criticism-tested-on-vega
Yeah unfortunately not many have done so. :/
Look is a Skylake Processor, it would perform like any skylake, really good. But that depends the games also and where they run.
Also depends if the single thread game searching explicitly for true core (like WOT) or any thread (eg last thread on Total War Warhammer)?
A ring based topology CPU, or one without SMT/HT (eg i5) wouldn't care less of the above, and it will scale the performance as needed.
However on anything else it relies on the developers to modify the code accordingly.
Hence we see ring CPUs even the lower clocked Broadwel-Es performing better on unoptimised games, having the 6 core beating the 7900X.
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It says driver level in the article,but like I said there are reports of flickering with GSync owners and it seems to be at certain framerates,but again you have people who are fine(just as you have people who seem to be fine with FreeSync). Like I said I have not had any complaints yet from my mate,so fingers crossed!
Well for me,my Xeon E3 1230 V2 was well under £200,so yes I gain 2 more cores but lose two more threads. A Core i7 8700 non-K will give me 50% more threads for over 50% more than what I have paid for my Xeon E3(which was under the £170 to £180 price at the time).
AFAIK,Zen 2 is probably on a new node(you can tell from the colour of the leaked roadmaps,which AMD traditionally uses for different nodes).
The Core i5 looks interesting - if it can hold its own it certainly looks much better price/performance than the equivalent Core i7 CPUs.
Either way,I am not in that much of a hurry - like I said earlier I bought some new bits for my camera which more or less would have at least got me a Core i7 8700 non-K.
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Want to deffo see some FO4 tests for the CPUs!!
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Yup and he and OCUK need to sell the huge stock they still have.
Not In heavy memory work loads assuming Coffee Lake is Skylake +2
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Thanks for the info, i'll keep that in mind!
Could you explain this a little more please? I wasn't aware of the 7700K favoring high speed RAM really?
Sure.
The Intel ring bus isn't that efficient at making use of memory bandwidth. Thats why you dont see much in the way of gains and why we had people running around saying x amount of memory speed is all you need. In simple terms to see a small gain in performance you need a big jump in speed. People blamed DDR for this but they didn't understand the problem.
Intel's ring bus is designed for 2-4 cores chips. With 6 cores the ring bus takes a performance hit as the amont of cross talk saturate the bus. Intel got around this problem by increasing the base bus clock and adding another pair of memory channels but because the underlying problem is efficncy that only works to a certain core count and now Intel have dropped the ring bus altogether.
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