Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

[Techen]

What i was reading said that the refresh due early next year was going to be 12nm LP, which is basically 14LPP+ or something i believe? everything else still points to Zen2 being 7nm?[/QUOTE]

Zen 2 is now 12nm and zen 3 is 2019 on 7nm platform but no release date. Have a quick google a lot of sites dropping the news today

 

[Simon Belmont]

The same people that are banging on about an upgrade path, what's the point if by the time AMD will be able to match kabylake ddr5 will be out so it's on an obsolete platform anyway.

AMD does indeed need to play catch up.

 

[sandys]

future proof doesn't just pertain to CPU speed, grand scheme of things unless you are rendering, doing big sims most CPUs are fast enough, the platforms on the other hand are not very good, lacking in PCIe lanes, it's taken me an age to move from my z77 board because the boards available from Intel with a PLX chip are very pricey (Not intels fault sure, that's down to Avago upping PLX price) and CPUs with enough lanes for GPUs and current storage (NVMe, why would you buy anything else) not even a future tech at this stage were too pricy, I jumped on the cheapo thread ripper for this very reason as it did offer future expansion beyond what I already have, new chip and platforms from Intel are still held back, same for Ryzen, no future, unless I want to run my next NVME drives at 1x. Can't understand what drove them to launch a restrict lanes on a HEDT platform....

The cost/spec ratio with respect to its whole platform is where Intel needs to catchup. Their CPUs are awesome and if my budgetry constraints weren't what they were, I'd have an Intel chip as it stands I have an upgrade that will have some life in it for less than the price of an entry level 44 lane chip.

 

[JGBR]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1186...ation-coffee-lake-hex-core-desktop-processors

now its offical, any idea on motherboard announcments.

 

[MyBrainz]

Here https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga1151-processor-retail-cp-62f-in.html £350 in this very forums shop....

Its under £300 now

 

[AndreiD]

The non K parts actually look pretty competitive price wise, the i7 8700 boosts to 4.6 too.

 

[Smffy]

Oh good, NDA on reviews surely can't be far off - did they add a formal release date yet or?

 

[AndreiD]

Next week, on the 5th of October, is supposedly the release date.

 

[Boomstick777]

Power Consumption

 

[danny77]

Its under £300 now

Its been lower then that for a while at other places , I've been trying to fight the urge to pick one up for £275

 

[AndreiD]

@Boomstick777
Better link the entire review if you cherry pick something:
https://videocardz.com/72986/intel-core-i7-8700k-and-i5-8600k-review-leaked

1800X multi-threaded performance with 7700K single-threaded performance, but that 7% extra system power consumption from a 7700K is just too much, weeeew.

 

[Journey]

So, how much do you reckon second hand 7700K's are going to be worth now? I mean is 4c/8t, and the 8600K is only 6c, but should be better, and that is ~£250. Loads of Z270 have tanked in price also...

 

[Smoogels]

@Boomstick777
Better link the entire review if you cherry pick something:
https://videocardz.com/72986/intel-core-i7-8700k-and-i5-8600k-review-leaked

1800X multi-threaded performance with 7700K single-threaded performance, but that 7% extra system power consumption from a 7700K is just too much, weeeew.

For some reason the 1800X scores a bit lower there compared to other reviews. In Cinebench my 1700 @ 3.8GHz scores 156 single/1682 multi.

 

[Rainmaker]

For some reason the 1800X scores a bit lower there compared to other reviews. In Cinebench my 1700 @ 3.8GHz scores 156 single/1682 multi.

Exactly, so a 1800X at stock (3.6GHz) scored 100 points less for the 200MHz all core deficit. Seems about right?

 

[Smoogels]

Exactly, so a 1800X at stock (3.6GHz) scored 100 points less for the 200MHz all core deficit. Seems about right?

What about the single thread? It scores 148 despite boosting to 4GHz/4.1 XFR

All core turbo is also 3.7GHz.

 

[AndreiD]

For some reason the 1800X scores a bit lower there compared to other reviews. In Cinebench my 1700 @ 3.8GHz scores 156 single/1682 multi.

Seems about right given the 1800X base clock is 3.6Ghz, maybe they turned off the performance bias in the BIOS? My X370 Prime has an option for it and I get a few points less in Cine without it.
Edit: Single seems off a bit though.

 

[Smoogels]

Seems about right given the 1800X base clock is 3.6Ghz, maybe they turned off the performance bias in the BIOS? My X370 Prime has an option for it and I get a few points less in Cine without it.

I don't have performance bias enabled and presumably neither do the other reviews which show it scoring higher.

Admittedly not a huge difference on the multi, the single core just seems lower than it should be.

 

[MyBrainz]

Its been lower then that for a while at other places , I've been trying to fight the urge to pick one up for £275

I know, but i was referring to the specific link posted

 

[AndreiD]

I don't have performance bias enabled and presumably neither do the other reviews which show it scoring higher.

Admittedly not a huge difference on the multi, the single core just seems lower than it should be.

I've noticed when I was trying out the various settings a while ago, performance bias can have some impact, albeit only a few %.
Single does seem off, it should be around 160 points.

Guess we'll see in proper reviews coming out, but I wanted to give more context to the image @Boomstick777 posted, as in performance seems really good based on the 'review' he took that from, good enough to warrant a 30W whole system power increase.

 

[DarrenM343]

picked up a 6700k last year in November. Was suspicious of the good pricing then. Wish didn't bother upgrading from 3770k as < 1 year later two i7 generations on. My 6700k prob worth 50quid . Soon to appear in members market.....