Interesting video on terror, 7/7 London bombings and 9/11.

Radiation · 3 Jul 2006 at 18:48

I just finished watching a video on google called Terrorstorm about how we are being manipulated with terror for various reasons, it contains quite a bit about the London bombings and some more stuff on 9/11, it's almost two hours long and quite a recent release by Alex Jones, it was really interesting and doesn't just bring up a lot of questions but goes a good way to answering them, its a must watch if you care enough not to want a 1984 style world.

Messiah Khan · 3 Jul 2006 at 18:55

I enjoy this sort of stuff, but most of it should be taken with a large pinch of salt. And what a nutter Alex Jones is tbh.

Radiation · 3 Jul 2006 at 18:58

messiah khan said:
I enjoy this sort of stuff, but most of it should be taken with a large pinch of salt. And what a nutter Alex Jones is tbh.

Yeah true you must have an open mind either way but there is so much evidence and fact from history as well that its hard to deny whats going on.

willd58 · 3 Jul 2006 at 19:14

Radiation said:
Yeah true you must have an open mind either way but there is so much evidence and fact from history as well that its hard to deny whats going on.

Not really, one mans evidence and fact, is another mans garbage, this video, is garbage.

Berserker · 3 Jul 2006 at 19:21

I haven't watched this video, but if it's anything like the others I've heard about, then as far as I'm concerned they're being disrespectful to those who died just to promote whatever agenda they have. So no, I won't watch and I'm very closed minded to this junk. :mad:

robmiller · 3 Jul 2006 at 19:22

I wouldn't feed this tripe to my dog.

Radiation · 3 Jul 2006 at 19:33

Whats with all the negativity?

Sit and have a think about why these sort of things strike that kind of negative response into you, are you really thinking that or is it something you've been duped into thinking like?

Berserker said:
I haven't watched this video, but if it's anything like the others I've heard about, then as far as I'm concerned they're being disrespectful to those who died just to promote whatever agenda they have. So no, I won't watch and I'm very closed minded to this junk.

This certainly isn't disrespectful and i see no agenda, i find your attitude even more worrying in some ways tbh, if you don't look at the evidence then you can't make a worthy comment or have any right to call bs as far as im concerned.

I don't know what 'others' you've seen but this was a well made piece on the subject, its worse to stick your head in the sand and live an 'easy' ignorant life and later find out whats really happening than at least be aware of whats possible now, comments like that stink of fear of the very possible truth.

Al Vallario · 3 Jul 2006 at 19:50

I watched the first fifteen minutes or so and it was just Alex Jones going over previous events in history, skewing facts and trying to make things sound epic with his stupid voice.

Then I got distracted by the link on the right hand side to the video titled "Alex Jones in London - Bonus Footage on Inside Job". I watched ten minutes of that, and what a load of rubbish that was too. Lots of camera shots of policemen and CCTV cameras (do they think the whole country is like that or what?), damning interviews with members of the public who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. I couldn't help but laugh when one of the cameramen moans about how not being able to film the police isn't double standards; do they genuinely not have a clue how these things work? Then Alex Jones himself steps out into the road in Tavistock Square and claims the authorities were lying because, one and a half hours after the explosion on the bus, they were still claiming the explosions on the underground were simply power surges? Stopped watching after that.

It's just uneducated propaganda :rolleyes:

RG10 · 3 Jul 2006 at 19:51

Radiation said:
Whats with all the negativity?

Sit and have a think about why these sort of things strike that kind of negative response into you, are you really thinking that or is it something you've been duped into thinking like?

This certainly isn't disrespectful and i see no agenda, i find your attitude even more worrying in some ways tbh, if you don't look at the evidence then you can't make a worthy comment or have any right to call bs as far as im concerned.

I don't know what 'others' you've seen but this was a well made piece on the subject, its worse to stick your head in the sand and live an 'easy' ignorant life and later find out whats really happening than at least be aware of whats possible now, comments like that stink of fear of the very possible truth.

looks like it`s brainwashed you already.

*Moangroan* · 3 Jul 2006 at 19:52

If you go to certain events now and photograph the police you will be given a white piece of paper and your details taken on a possibility of terrorism.

what bull**** !!!.

No swearing. FF.

^TANK^ · 3 Jul 2006 at 19:56

I just watched the video :-/

Radiation · 3 Jul 2006 at 19:58

Al Vallario said:
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You have to watch it all or most of it as does get more interesting and i've yet to see anything officially deny many of the things brought up in these sort of videos.

RG10 said:
looks like it`s brainwashed you already.

Nope just open minded, are you?

^TANK^ · 3 Jul 2006 at 20:01

To be honest people we will never know the truth of most terror acts fact!

Berserker · 3 Jul 2006 at 20:03

Radiation said:
Whats with all the negativity?

Sit and have a think about why these sort of things strike that kind of negative response into you, are you really thinking that or is it something you've been duped into thinking like?

All the 'inside job' 'evidence' is just concocted using selected evidence twisted to fit the particular theory. Any analysis worth more than two seconds of my time is based on the facts, not despite them. I'm well versed in conspiracy theories having had the moon landings one shoved down my throat all too often. Videos like this are utter and complete tripe, and simply not worth my time. And yes, they are disrespectful. I just wish they'd shut up and go back down their hole, but unfortunately the internet gives voice to these things. :mad:

I hope you now get the idea that I can't stand conspiracy theorists. Buzz Aldrin had the right idea.

Abraham · 3 Jul 2006 at 20:10

erm... i dont get the "what possible reason could there be for diverting the bus, omg wtf it must be a conspiracy" thing
it was diverted because it was meant to be going through the area where the explosions were, it was also running late and should have been there at a similar time...

RG10 · 3 Jul 2006 at 20:12

Radiation said:
You have to watch it all or most of it as does get more interesting and i've yet to see anything officially deny many of the things brought up in these sort of videos.

Nope just open minded, are you?

yes i`m open minded, open minded to topics worth thinking about not mindless drivel like this video and countless others that are floating about.

cleanbluesky · 3 Jul 2006 at 20:44

I'm a busy man, I haven't got two hours and I cant find a transcript. From what I can tell it seems to be anti-government propaganda, and serves best to illustrate how there is a growing market for media that tells the people their government are dishonest or generally nasty.

With regards to the idea that governments are completely sinister, I don't think the rabbithole goes anywhere near as far as many seem to believe. I think many things, especially the harder-to-orchestrate and more scandalous events such as 9/11 or 7/7 are exactly as they say on the tin. Government try to equate either simplistic or biased political associations from those events, but I doubt they would engineer them purposefully.

Radiation · 3 Jul 2006 at 21:20

Berserker said:
All the 'inside job' 'evidence' is just concocted using selected evidence twisted to fit the particular theory. Any analysis worth more than two seconds of my time is based on the facts, not despite them. I'm well versed in conspiracy theories having had the moon landings one shoved down my throat all too often. Videos like this are utter and complete tripe, and simply not worth my time. And yes, they are disrespectful. I just wish they'd shut up and go back down their hole, but unfortunately the internet gives voice to these things.

I hope you now get the idea that I can't stand conspiracy theorists. Buzz Aldrin had the right idea.

Why don't you like it, is it maybe because you feel some of this stuff could be true? i wouldn't blame you for that because if true it would certainly suck but all you have to look at is the news to know the world isn't a very nice place and it's a fact things have been done in the past to help an agenda, its not disrespectful when all people want to know is the truth as there are many suspect things clearly going on.

RG10 said:
yes i`m open minded, open minded to topics worth thinking about not mindless drivel like this video and countless others that are floating about.

It's hardly mindless drivel but then you wouldn't know because you obviously won't watch the whole thing with an open mind anyway, don't let the worry that perhaps its true put you off because its a lame excuse if you are.

JRS · 3 Jul 2006 at 21:33

Radiation said:
Why don't you like it, is it maybe because you feel some of this stuff could be true?

Here's a really "out-there" theory - maybe he doesn't like it because it's a complete load of ********? Or doesn't your 'open mind' stretch to accomodate that train of thought?

Berserker · 3 Jul 2006 at 21:37

Radiation said:
Why don't you like it, is it maybe because you feel some of this stuff could be true? i wouldn't blame you for that because if true it would certainly suck but all you have to look at is the news to know the world isn't a very nice place and it's a fact things have been done in the past to help an agenda, its not disrespectful when all people want to know is the truth as there are many suspect things clearly going on.

Please don't insult my intelligence, and don't second-guess what I'm thinking. I've already told you what I think of it, and if you can't accept that, then I feel as sorry for you as I do for the guy making the video.

Let's turn this around. What makes you so sure it's true?