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Poll: Inverted / Southpaw / Weird Control Users

Discussion in 'Console Games & Hardware' started by Mr Jones, Nov 17, 2015.

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Which are you?

  1. "Normal" Y-Axis (Up is Up, Down is Down)

    26 vote(s)
    53.1%
  2. Inverted Y-Axis (Up is Down, Down is Up)

    22 vote(s)
    44.9%
  3. Both X and Y Axis are inverted

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  1. Mr Jones

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 16, 2006

    Posts: 11,310

    Location: UK

    I grew up playing on NES / SNES / Sega Mega Drive and Halo 2 was my first intro to analogue sticks for FPS at a friend's house - I was a PC gamer then, so mouse and keyboard. I failed terribly at using the default controls and then my friend suggested I invert the controls. Within minutes, I was kicking butts. Been playing on controller ever since.

    So how the heck is my brain programmed to use inverted Y-Axis controls?

    Pretty much every game offers that option and I am thankful, because up until recently, I forgot how utterly useless I was at controller gaming when I can't invert (Smite had a bug recently which stop inverted controls).

    Do you have the same problem or are you 'normal' on the Y-Axis?
     
  2. Raymond Lin

    Capo Crimine

    Joined: Oct 20, 2002

    Posts: 65,266

    Location: Wish i was in Tokyo

    I use Inverted Y here because it's how real fights planes joysticks works, at least in a flight sim and when I was younger, playing Afterburner. That carried over.

    You pull the stick down to pull the plane up. The other way is wrong :p
     
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  3. HeX

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jun 20, 2004

    Posts: 11,883

    Location: Huddersfield, UK

    Inverted Y here as well.

    As for why, it's to do with how you perceive yourself in relation to the character.

    Normal Y users are moving the characters eyes, so if you want to 'look up' you push up, if you want to 'look down' you push down.

    Inverted Y users are moving the characters head, if you imagine a stick on top of the characters head, if you push that stick backwards it tilts the head back so you 'look up' if you push the stick forward it tilts the head forwards so you 'look down'.
     
  4. roccles

    Hitman

    Joined: Apr 26, 2012

    Posts: 835

    Inverted Y for me to, if a game was released without the option to invert I think I would have to abandon before I had even really started. I have tried to retrain my brain but it just wont happen.
     
  5. Mr Jones

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 16, 2006

    Posts: 11,310

    Location: UK

    Ahh, so I see my character from a third person view, like a puppet master?
     
  6. HeX

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jun 20, 2004

    Posts: 11,883

    Location: Huddersfield, UK

    Exactly. Normal Y see themselves as the character, Inverted Y see themselves as controlling the character.
     
  7. builder22

    Mobster

    Joined: Dec 14, 2005

    Posts: 3,085

    I was (am) a PC gamer and felt better with the inverted Y option at first too but since it's set as 'normal' by default I forced myself to play it like that and I'm fine with it now, not tried inverted for years but I'm sure I'd find it very difficult

    when I say fine I mean it feels comfortable, I still suck :D
     
  8. KWJay

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Apr 2, 2006

    Posts: 1,189

    Location: Somewhere Fabulous...

    Hey Pharma, how's things? We're missing you on Destiny buddy! ;)

    I'm exactly the same as you. I was always a PC gamer and mouse/keyboard or a joystick and I put it down to playing flight sims or games like X-Wing and TIE Fighter in my youth. Forward will always be look down/pitch down and backwards will always be look/pull up!

    It's the proper way. :D
     
  9. LackyT

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 7, 2013

    Posts: 1,201

    Same for me, thinking back to a joystick on PC.

    Inverted Y Master Race :D
     
  10. oweneades

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Jul 17, 2005

    Posts: 8,966

    Inverted all the way for me. Growing up using a joystick on the PC cemented that for me.

    My Mrs plays non inverted and I get confused every time I play on her account.

    Mind you I once accidently hit the X axis horizontal invert on Destiny whilst on her account. I don't think I have every been so confused before...
     
  11. builder22

    Mobster

    Joined: Dec 14, 2005

    Posts: 3,085

    it's a bit like if you're used to playing PES controls, then go play Fifa!
     
  12. King4aDay

    Mobster

    Joined: Sep 4, 2003

    Posts: 4,253

    Location: Cornwall

    Inverted X and Y for camera controls.
    Inserted Y for flight control (assuming roll on X axis) .
    Uninverted for direct character control.

    Or something :p
     
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  13. Jase

    Mobster

    Joined: Oct 19, 2002

    Posts: 4,716

    Location: Pembrokeshire

    I use inverted always have.

    Although most people think that it could be how you would control a plane for instance its how you brain perceives the control point of an object. On a head some people would consider the control point for movement as the front but other (who play inverted) would imagine the control point as the back. So although people who don't play inverted are a bit weird there's a reason :)
     
  14. Mr Jones

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 16, 2006

    Posts: 11,310

    Location: UK

    Wow, so far the majority is leaning towards inverted... I'll ask a Mod to set a poll to see if it's anything similar to Right / Left handed people.

    Aye, I do miss the sessions of Destiny but Smite / Fallout have Taken me away from the King ;)
     
  15. KWJay

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Apr 2, 2006

    Posts: 1,189

    Location: Somewhere Fabulous...

    Da-dum tsss! He's here all week boys and girls! :D

    You should pop back on mate. Come on, just a little taste, what's the worst that can happen...?

    Doctor Pharma, so misunderstood... ;)
     
  16. Phog

    Mobster

    Joined: Mar 8, 2004

    Posts: 3,187

    Location: Central London

    I'm normal (although apparently that seems like I may be in the minority..!)
     
  17. DodgeeRascal

    Gangster

    Joined: Jan 20, 2013

    Posts: 277

    Location: Shropshire

    Aye,

    I guess it's early days on the poll and the thread title is aimed at inverted users but I really didn't think that many people used them.
     
  18. Mr Jones

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 16, 2006

    Posts: 11,310

    Location: UK

    My missus still thinks I'm weird for playing inverted, I think she's weird playing normal.

    My googling skills seems to say there is a fairly even split in number of inverted and normal axis players out there, with neither getting any benefit from using their chosen option. It's weirder when people go inverted X axis though.
     
  19. shorttricky

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Feb 15, 2010

    Posts: 1,028

    I always used to use inverted x axis for 3rd person games. I had to train myself to use standard x axis for everything when switching between moving and shooting hurt my brain in Uncharted - moving was 3rd person, so inverted, but shooting was over the shoulder so I wanted to use normal :eek:
     
  20. Greboth

    Mobster

    Joined: Aug 6, 2010

    Posts: 4,819

    Location: Birmingham

    FPS 'normal' but flight controls need to be inverted. Which has confused a few people who have a go on my BF account :D