*** iPhone 5 - Revealed! ***

Logsi said:
I do mean the Galaxy. I've used the S2 moreso than the S3. I just find them incredibly cheap feeling and FAR too big and my handspan is 9 inches thumb to pinky. I just cannot handle and look at it objectively to form a positive opinion about it.

Yeah, it may be powerful but to me...it's just cheap and nasty. I find the OS even more ridiculous. Why do i need these stupid gratuitous animations to move around the UI, it cheapens the experience. It's just not intuitive also.

I'm intrigued what people find so good about it though...because i just cannot see it. Maybe I'm a blind fanboy.
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It isn't on the same level of premium as the iPhone, that's very obvious.

As for the software, not everyone gets on with Android, I can appreciate that, many of the 'computery' features are lost on me and I find them pointless, I like the simplicity of iOS and the high, uniform quality feel of the various apps.

However, the Galaxy S 3 is a very powerful/capable phone overall, it pretty much nails many of the key requirements from a hardware perspective, such as -

Excellent, large, high quality HD screen
Lots of CPU and GPU power
Very good battery life
A solid antenna/wifi signal, decent speaker, notification LED, etc
Brilliant HD video recording and a very good camera
80GB of possible storage with a 64GB SD card

So surely you can see the appeal of it, even if you consider it to be ugly and cheap feeling, I don't think it feels premium either.
 
For anyone interested in the SoC of the iPhone 5:

When Apple announced the iPhone 5, Phil Schiller officially announced what had leaked several days earlier: the phone is powered by Apple's new A6 SoC.

As always, Apple didn't announce clock speeds, CPU microarchitecture, memory bandwidth or GPU details. It did however give us an indication of expected CPU performance.

Prior to the announcement we speculated the iPhone 5's SoC would simply be a higher clocked version of the 32nm A5r2 used in the iPad 2,4. After all, Apple seems to like saving major architecture shifts for the iPad.

However, just prior to the announcement I received some information pointing to a move away from the ARM Cortex A9 used in the A5. Given Apple's reliance on fully licensed ARM cores in the past, the expected performance gains and unpublishable information that started all of this I concluded Apple's A6 SoC likely featured two ARM Cortex A15 cores.

It turns out I was wrong. But pleasantly surprised.

The A6 is the first Apple SoC to use its own ARMv7 based processor design. The CPU core(s) aren't based on a vanilla A9 or A15 design from ARM IP, but instead are something of Apple's own creation.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6292/iphone-5-a6-not-a15-custom-core

The bad news is I have no details on the design of Apple's custom core. Despite Apple's willingness to spend on die area, I believe an A15/Krait class CPU core is a likely target. Slightly wider front end, more execution resources, more flexible OoO execution engine, deeper buffers, bigger windows, etc... Support for VFPv4 guarantees a bigger core size than the Cortex A9, it only makes sense that Apple would push the envelope everywhere else as well. I'm particularly interested in frequency targets and whether there's any clever dynamic clock work happening. Someone needs to run Geekbench on an iPhone 5 pronto.
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Interesting...
 
Marky said:
If you went to an Apple store next Saturday would you have any chance of getting an iPhone 5? I just wonder how quickly they run out of stock
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It's hard to say, I'd say there's a pretty big risk of them very quickly running out of the 16/32GB models though. The 64GB should be less popular.

thecremeegg said:
How about you don't act like a complete sad case and wait a day? It's only a phone, jeez! :rolleyes::p
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Because, depending on stock, he might end up waiting ages.
 
IvanDobskey said:
Cheers, just had a look. The 12 month ones are shocking value! Looks like sim free is the way to go. I guess getting one sim free will only be possible at an apple store on launch day?
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Yeah, unless places like the CPW are going to sell them SIM free.

Being in the front half of an Apple store queue is going to be your best bet I think.
 
opethdisciple said:
So guys how does the iphone 5 compare to the S3 or the HTC One X?

Are Apples claims that it is the thinest phone correct?
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I don't think it's the thinnest phone in the world (ZTE have some that are thinner), but it's the thinnest phone you're ever likely to see at the moment, the others may not be on sale.

As for how it compares to them, it's - being very vague - roughly on par with them, depending on what things you value, like screen size, software, etc.
 
Wow, that's impressive if true. Where is it from? :eek:

Quite how the One S can be behind the Nexus 7 is beyond me though. Also, that S3 has 1GB, not 2.
 
Those front guys are sponsored by Gazelle - a US based phone recycler. Surely nobody would genuinely be waiting this early (well, perhaps the odd nutter).
 
Actually, it seems the review embargo has just been lifted as Engadget's review is up now:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/18/apple-iphone-5-review/

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The iPhone 5 is a significant improvement over the iPhone 4S in nearly every regard, and in those areas that didn't see an upgrade over its predecessor -- camera, storage capacity -- one could make a strong case that the iPhone 4S was already ahead of the curve. Every area, that is, except for the OS. If anything, it's the operating system here that's beginning to feel a bit dated and beginning to show its age.

Still, the iPhone 5 absolutely shines. Pick your benchmark and you'll find Apple's thin new weapon sitting at or near the top. Will it convince you to give up your Android or Windows Phone ways and join the iOS side? Maybe, maybe not. Will it wow you? Hold it in your hand -- you might be surprised. For the iOS faithful this is a no-brainer upgrade. This is without a doubt the best iPhone yet. This is a hallmark of design. This is the one you've been waiting for.
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Edit, a couple of highlights:

Battery life:

On our standard battery rundown test, in which we loop a video with LTE and WiFi enabled and social accounts pinging at regular intervals, the iPhone 5 managed a hugely impressive 11 hours and 15 minutes. That's just 10 minutes shy of the Motorola Droid RAZR Maxx.
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For those of you who don't know what the RAZR Maxx is, it has a massive battery and generally has the best battery life of any smartphone.

Speed:

Two times faster? Twice the graphics performance? Better battery life? Actually, yes. The iPhone 5 over-delivers on all those promises. Running the Geekbench test suite on the iPhone 4S gave us an average score of 634. The iPhone 5 netted an average of 1,628. That's more than twice as fast and, while you won't necessarily see such huge increases in day-to-day usage, apps do load noticeably quicker, HDR images are processed in half the time and tasks like video rendering in iMovie are equally expedient.

SunSpider scores average at 924ms, which is more than twice as fast as the 2,200ms the iPhone 4S manages and still quite a bit quicker than the 1,400ms scored by the Galaxy S III and the 1,700ms managed by the HTC One X. More important than numbers, web pages load very quickly, snapping into view as fast as your data plan can shovel the bits into Safari and, once there, smoothly reacting to your gestures.
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I was most interested in the battery life and so far, I like what I hear.
 
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I'm now a bit torn on the colour again, especially as the white model sounds less of a fingerprint magnet (I'm OCD about fingerprints on phones :p).

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I guess they need to be seen in the flesh first. I imagine I'll still go for the black though.
 
simulatorman said:
Are you ditching your current phone(s) for this?
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Quite possibly, yes!

The iP5 and Lumia 920 are both looking good at the moment. My favourite version of Android is Android on the Galaxy Nexus and I fear the new Nexus phone will be the 'usual' - outdated... possibly an S3 minus the expansion slot.

However, I'm not in a rush to grab one of these, I'll give it a couple of weeks so any early issues are sorted out... like the early reports of the anodising on the black model being a bit patchy.

I also want to try both colours before deciding!

The iPhone 5 is looking mighty fine though, I've always rated them very highly except for the screen size, and 4" is a decent enough size upgrade. My one concern was battery life and that seems to be very good.
 
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