Is Google ever going to revenue share?

mrochester · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:00

As it stands, Google expects its users to give them a whole heap of data and for those users to receive no financial compensation in return. You basically give away something for nothing.

Now that the world is slowly waking up to how valuable our personal data is (we already know to protect our personal info when it comes to physical materials, shredding documents etc), are Google going to have to increase value by revenue sharing with its users?

I’ve already moved away from Google services as I can get the same services from Apple for 79p per month. My data is worth a LOT more than 79p per month so I have no reason to freely give it away to Google for them to generate huge profits off the back of it.

What do you all think?

The_Abyss · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:03

So now you're giving all your data to Apple, AND paying them for it?

mrochester · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:05

The_Abyss said:
So now you're giving all your data to Apple, AND paying them for it?

Apple don’t user my data to generate an advertising profile to sell to advertisers... I have no problem giving my data to a company if it benefits ME, but not if they are going to profit from it without sharing the profit with me.

Begbie · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:09

You get their services in return for this.

No one forces you to use them, why should they give you a free service?

FerretBoy · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:10

Google give you a lot of services in return for your data, emails, maps (inc traffic), search etc..

LiE · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:12

mrochester said:
You basically give away something for nothing.

Wrong. Your getting Gmail, Maps, Photos, Google Search, Google Assistant, Android, Calendar, etc etc.

Semple · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:17

mrochester said:
As it stands, Google expects its users to give them a whole heap of data and for those users to receive no financial compensation in return. You basically give away something for nothing.

That's not entirely accurate is it.

As the other posters have mentioned, there's a wealth of Google services that they don't charge for that you probably use.

They could always give you money back in exchange for your data, but then charge you for each service you use.

EDIT: What services of Apple's do you pay for? From what i've seen, Apple's services are quite inferior to Google's. I mean how many people use Apple maps as opposed to Google Maps/Waze?

glenimp617 · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:21

I expected more from the OP.....especially on a computer forum such as this

Personally, I like google products. I'm happy to see fleshlight ads due to my browsing habits in return for services such as maps and gmail.

LiE · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:30

It's worth also noting, you can disable all their tracking and delete your entire history associated to your Google account.

Provided by Google themselves.

https://myaccount.google.com/activitycontrols

Skillmister · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:32

I'd pay a considerable amount for all Google's services. I use them tens if not hundreds of times a day, and they just work

If anything I find the location history quite interesting too!

ANDARIAL · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:34

LiE said:
It's worth also noting, you can disable all their tracking

I thought that even if you do this they still track you etc?

LiE · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:36

I can totally appreciate Apple's position with privacy. For some that is very important and it's good that they are a counter balance to Googles take on privacy.

Apples ecosystem is good, if you don't mind being locked in and having Apple dictate how you should use their services.

Google services are very good, on a like for like basis Google wins pretty much every comparison. That's not to say Apple's service are bad, but you can tell Google is a software company.

Kronos · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:41

LiE said:
It's worth also noting, you can disable all their tracking and delete your entire history associated to your Google account.

Provided by Google themselves.

https://myaccount.google.com/activitycontrols

That is useful as I have stopped stuff that I really do not need. Cheers.

GravyMonster · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:42

mrochester said:
I’ve already moved away from Google services as I can get the same services from Apple for 79p per month. My data is worth a LOT more than 79p per month so I have no reason to freely give it away to Google for them to generate huge profits off the back of it.

FLOL.

"I'm fed up of giving my data to Google for free. I'll give it to Apple and pay 79p for the privilege!"

I have no problem giving my data to a company if it benefits ME, but not if they are going to profit from it without sharing the profit with me.

Apple entirely profit from your data. Your logic here is, frankly, retarded.

manic111 · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:44

mrochester said:
Apple don’t user my data to generate an advertising profile to sell to advertisers

If you believe that then you'll believe anything...data is just as valuable to Apple as to Google; just because Apple has a hardware arm which is also incredibly profitable, it doesn't mean that they don't generate an advertising profile about you.

GravyMonster · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:45

ANDARIAL said:
I thought that even if you do this they still track you etc?

IIRC they still track you, but the data is anonymised so cannot be tracked back a specific user.

mrochester · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:56

Begbie said:
You get their services in return for this.

No one forces you to use them, why should they give you a free service?

I don’t use Google services because they take my data to generate advertising profiles.

mrochester · 22 Aug 2018 at 14:59

Semple said:
That's not entirely accurate is it.

As the other posters have mentioned, there's a wealth of Google services that they don't charge for that you probably use.

They could always give you money back in exchange for your data, but then charge you for each service you use.

EDIT: What services of Apple's do you pay for? From what i've seen, Apple's services are quite inferior to Google's. I mean how many people use Apple maps as opposed to Google Maps/Waze?

I pay for iCloud storage. For that I get email, calendar, contacts, photos, files, and any number of other features synced across all my devices. All for just 79p per month without having to give away all my data for Apple to sell adverting.

Begbie · 22 Aug 2018 at 15:13

mrochester said:
I don’t use Google services because they take my data to generate advertising profiles.

No google search? Maps?

Anyway, that is why they sell your data. To generate a revenue. How else do you expect them to make money.

touch · 22 Aug 2018 at 15:15

mrochester said:
All for just 79p per month without having to give away all my data for Apple to sell adverting.

It clearly says on the apple website that they use your data to target advertising at you. Exactly the same as google do.

This is how you can disable it:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202074

You can also disable the same thing on google.