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Is it illegal NOT to save someone from dying?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by pmbuzz, Sep 29, 2010.

  1. pmbuzz

    Wise Guy

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    If you ignored someone just about to throw themself from a high bridge ?
    If you saw someone drowning and just walked on by ?
    If you encountered people in a burning building and just carried on your way?

    Say you started to save someone by giving mouth to mouth or cardiac compressions but gave up, could you be arrested ?
     
  2. Tefal

    Capo Crimine

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    in none of those situations could i see it being criminal because you'd have to put yourself and others at risk and would mostly just cause more problems than you solve.

    Also please don't try and do CPR if you're not trained.

    I think though like the woman wo stood there after her sister stabbed a guy and instead of phoning the police called hsi family and taunted them saying she wouldn't call an ambulance got sentenced when he died but under a different charge.
     
  3. 2StepSteve

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    No I would say.

    All of the above are out of your control and more to the point you aren't the cause of the situation they are in.
     
  4. Berserker

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    Er no. Well, not unless you were negligent (i.e. your action or inaction caused the death). You might put yourself in danger, or do more harm than you otherwise might have sought to prevent, etc.
     
  5. PardonTheWait

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    So what if someone's heart pills were 6 inches out of reach and you refused to pass them to them and they died?
     
  6. JBuk

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    afaik there's no specific law that states you must inform the emergency services if you think somebody needs help

    and it's ok to give up trying to resuscitate someone, you can't be expected to go at it infinately lol
     
  7. Moses

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    In France you have to help people by the roadside. Something like that, anyway.
     
  8. Sinny

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    I bet you could probably get sued though. or am I getting confused and thinking of America :rolleyes:
     
  9. Xenia Onatopp

    Capodecina

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    Leave a lot of people to die do we?
     
  10. timmyt

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    I doubt its illegal just in bad taste.
     
  11. muon

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    I think it is clear what your intentions are if you do that and are aware your inaction would kill them. I would hope there is a provision somewhere to charge such a person.
     
  12. pmbuzz

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    So, is NOT ringing the services an inaction that could cause death ?
     
  13. Berserker

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    You can be prosecuted for leaving the scene of a road accident (before the emergency services arrive) in the UK, but I'm not sure there's anything about helping people.
     
  14. Tefal

    Capo Crimine

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    dunno, but actively stopping others from calling them seems to be.
     
  15. muon

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    I would say yes.
     
  16. Pate

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    Unless there was a duty of care then no it wouldn't be illegal.

    Wouldn't want to know you though :p
     
  17. mame

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    This has crossed my mind before. What if your worst enemy was about to suffer a slow James Bond style death that was nothing to do with you and just sat back and said "ho ho ho, I'm going to enjoy this" an waited the 10 minutes it took to kill him.
     
  18. Rich_L

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  19. Sudden

    Mobster

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    It's ok, but only if you have popcorn.
     
  20. mame

    Sgarrista

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    I think your sig. goes with that :p
     


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