Is it Karma or just plain bad luck?

I always have a bunch of bad things happen at once. I get through them and am sometimes even better for it.

Example: After having just bought my flat and a month after moving in, lost my job, flooded the 2 flats below mine via water leak and caught the flu.

The water leak was covered by NHBC warranty, obviously I recovered from the flu relatively quickly and I got a new job that paid more than the last one a month later.
 
Of course its not Karma, there is no such thing. Your outlook on life and ability to adapt and overcome is what makes people "lucky".

Look at all the ***** in this world who have everything. Life is unfair and doesn't care who it ***** on. They have done studies on this and it pretty much comes down to the individuals interpretation of events and how they react to them.
 
I find it interesting, some people seem to gloss over the positive things that have happened in their lives, but when something negative happens it seems to take precedence. Maybe it's the society we live in?

This made me think. I tend to gloss over the good things when looking back at events. What does that say? Sometimes it's hard to recognise good luck, when it's taken lots of hard graft to make it happen.

Which is the more powerful state of mind? "Positive" or "Negative"

I'm all about the positive - e.g. try try again. However sometimes, when decisions still don't go your way, you need to know when just to give in. I stuggle with that.

It's like that joke about the chap adrift at sea, believing that God will step in and help because of this steadfast faith. He then turns away the people who come to his aid because he believes god himself with intervene. In the afterlife he questions god and realises it was god that sent the people to his aid in the first place :D

Think I just wanted some solace knowing others where having the same issues. It's the weekend, things have to be on the up, right? :p

Thanks OCuK
 
That's life. Things get bad, but they will eventually improve as long as you are willing to make changes where they need to be made and keep a positive attitude.

I remember as a kid I had a pretty awful life, but I kept a positive attitude whenever I could, making the best of a bad situation. I loved motor racing and when I was 8 I got my big break and it took me to places I'd never dreamed of going. I met a beautiful girl and we fell in love and I eventually got her pregnant. Everything was perfect, my best friend and I had great times together. But then I started to suspect he was trying to steal my wife away from me and that's when things started to go downhill.

My boss, with whom I'd grown close to, started to suspect the same and led me away from my friend, convincing me that my fears were right and that I would indeed lose my wife. He showed me how to empower myself, how to protect her. I felt better than ever. But in my blind fear of her demise, I didn't stop to think that I may be the cause of it. I killed children at work and those who had nurtured me throughout my career in the reckless pursuit of a better life.

Eventually, my friend confronted me and we ended up having an epic fight. He left me for dead in the middle of nowhere. It was my boss who ended up saving my life, but led me to believe I had killed my wife in what I now realise to be just another trick he had been using to manipulate me. He paid for the reconstructive surgery I needed after the fight - hundreds of skin grafts, prosthetics, etc.

Around 20 years later, a period where everything was pain and I had to live with the consequences of my actions, I found out that my son and daughter had survived my wife's death and my son had even been befriended by my old friend. I hunted my son down and tried to convince him to hang out with me, I suppose it's true what they say - misery loves company. But he didn't want to hang out with his deadbeat dad and thought my old friend was more of a father to him. His life, like mine at his age, was going great. He was a rising star in the military, he had a great bunch of friends and had a promising acting career.

I didn't realise that it was my attitude that was driving him away from me, so I persisted trying harder and harder, becoming tyrannical in my attempts. I didn't even realise that a couple of years earlier I had destroyed my daughter's home. After trying to kill my son, we patched up our differences and I threw my boss into the server room at work - he was killed instantly by electrocution. In doing so, I sacrificed my own life to save those of my son and daughter. I had redeemed myself and in those last few moments of my life, it was like everything was right again and life wasn't so crappy. Then I turned blue and became a ghost to be reunited with my best friend and mentor in the forest.

So you see, even when things are at their darkest, there is light to be found. You must experience the lows to truly appreciate the highs.




This may or may not have actually happened to me and may actually just be the (very loosely told!) tale of Darth Vader. I didn't want to just write some generic 'it will get better' cliche. I need to order some more bath salts.
 
That's life. Things get bad, but they will eventually improve as long as you are willing to make changes where they need to be made and keep a positive attitude.

I remember as a kid I had a pretty awful life, but I kept a positive attitude whenever I could, making the best of a bad situation. I loved motor racing and when I was 8 I got my big break and it took me to places I'd never dreamed of going. I met a beautiful girl and we fell in love and I eventually got her pregnant. Everything was perfect, my best friend and I had great times together. But then I started to suspect he was trying to steal my wife away from me and that's when things started to go downhill.

M
Wow, you were a pretty active 8 year old lol.
 
Bad things happen to everyone, but on the whole you have it good, you were not born in a refugee camp with HIV from your mother whom was gang raped by soldiers due to the civil war caused by a ruthless dictator whom killed the rest of your family etc.

It only seems bad because you had it so good in the first place, on the whole you still have it pretty awesome, be happy with that.
 
im not religious in the slightest but i do believe in Karma. "what goes around comes around"

You're not religious, but you believe in something equally bizarre. :p

There's no such thing as Karma. To believe in Karma you have to believe that the Universe is not only a conscious entity, but also intervenes in our lives. There are enough examples of where Karma just doesn't happen, where people who do bad things don't get an equal amount of vengeance, to prove that it really isn't a 'thing'.

I guess a lot of people say Karma but really they mean consequence. An action has a consequence, you attack someone in the street, prepare to be attacked in return, or arrested.
 
There's no such thing as Karma.

Karma is a belief or concept.

To believe in Karma you have to believe that the Universe is not only a conscious entity, but also intervenes in our lives.

Not true on the whole, only some traditions believe a god or entity intervenes.

There are enough examples of where Karma just doesn't happen, where people who do bad things don't get an equal amount of vengeance, to prove that it really isn't a 'thing'.

As you are aware, in general Karma is about the cycle of causality - an action having an effect. It isn't about justice or equal measures of reciprocated vengence.

Karma can be proved through natural laws of cause and effect - I upset you, this may in turn cause or contribute to you upsetting someone else down the line and so on.
 
Anyone else having 'issues' at the moment?

I'm a pretty decent bloke, happy and easy going etc. but in the space of a week things in general have turned from very, very promising to utter rat crap.

Y'know, decisions out of your control that just seemly turn sour almost overnight. I have a good positive outlook on life, but it's taking a real beating at the moment.

I don't want to go into my problems (not the reason for starting this thread), but I does make me wonder if this is karma or just pure bad luck?

I'm not religious or spiritual, but I'm starting to think him upstairs is trying to say something lol.

Does anyone else feel like this sometimes, how do you rationalise it - karma, bad luck or sometimes, despite best efforts **** happens?


If the events were out of your control then there is nothing you can do about so try not to get upset or angry.

Luck, karma, whatever are just nonsense ideas. Events happen, some of which you can control, some you can, some are good, some are bad. Sometimes you get a lot of bad events in a short period of time, think of it like waiting for a bus when you wait and wait with nothing in sight then 3 buses turn up at once - it follows a Poisson distribution.
 
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