Caporegime
Judo is great, once my baby comes and life settles a little I'll be finding a good local place to start again 
Is martial arts actually worth doing?
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Caporegime
Oh, 'Enter the Dragon' is on Five
I see! I found JiuJitsu to have too many throws for my liking, it was good but was really ****ing with my head as I think I have some sort of imbalance in there somewhere so I used to end up with major headaches after sessions which was playing havoc with my sleep.
We did a mix of things but I think what you're saying was also true with my experience of JiuJitsu, we did minimal ground work and as beginners we weren't doing any locks or anything of that sort. I was slightly concerned by this but then realised that obviously you need to know the basics before you can progress.
Thoroughly enjoyed Karate, I'm one of the few people who actually likes Kata! Didn't realise you do much of that in Judo, imagined it was all throwing, similar to JiuJitsu.
I think I'm going to try boxing next, I hear it's mainly fitness training but there's no harm in being fit! I reckon I can get back into Karate any time I want to, just need to get fit enough so will probably try other martial arts before starting it again.
Caporegime
Sigma, he meant that ju jitsu had more kata, hence judo guys being ahead in terms of throws and locks etc
There's no kata in Judo, although you do practise throwing a stationary opponent a good deal.
gl with boxing - that looks like real hard work and great exercise. According to that tv show that compared warriors and martial art styles throughout the ages (the silly one with the computer generated results and fight at the end
) boxing teaches the hardest punch known to man!
Soldato
It would do, it's all they do lol.
Caporegime
When it's your only form of attack, it should be the best produced punch in fighting 
gl with boxing - that looks like real hard work and great exercise. According to that tv show that compared warriors and martial art styles throughout the ages (the silly one with the computer generated results and fight at the end
Thanks. I'd like to think I can kick alright, so perfecting punching should be fun. Depends what the training times are, if not I might just get back into Karate.
I've seen that series on the documentary channels, they put sensors and stuff on people and test dummies - did you see the Muay Thai Boxer's knee to the chest? The equivalent of being hit by a car at 30mph iirc! Ouuuuuuuuuch!
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I started a thread on a similar topic myself and have been looking into it a lot. I've previously done a few years of karate and had been to a jujitsu classes for a few months a few years ago though I've come to the conclusion that although both had some merits you'll also learn a lot of rubbish.
Essentially if you really want to be able to fight/defend yourself then you need something where you are training against an opponent who is going to actively resist you. Karate had some light sparring and ju jitsu had pair work and group attacks with weapons but they weren't too realistic. Lightly flicking someone at the side of the head with your foot and scoring 3 points isn't realistic, throwing someone who compliantly jumps a bit after having lunged at you with a knife (and rather nicely left their arm out) isn't realistic either.
In my search I came across this video and it pretty much sums it up - excusing the Americanism 'aliveness' he's basically bang on. I wish I'd seen something like this before wasting 3-4 years learning karate.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2068450760833041053#
Also have a look at a website called bullshido - quite a lot of info on there
Essentially if you really want to be able to fight/defend yourself then you need something where you are training against an opponent who is going to actively resist you. Karate had some light sparring and ju jitsu had pair work and group attacks with weapons but they weren't too realistic. Lightly flicking someone at the side of the head with your foot and scoring 3 points isn't realistic, throwing someone who compliantly jumps a bit after having lunged at you with a knife (and rather nicely left their arm out) isn't realistic either.
In my search I came across this video and it pretty much sums it up - excusing the Americanism 'aliveness' he's basically bang on. I wish I'd seen something like this before wasting 3-4 years learning karate.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2068450760833041053#
Also have a look at a website called bullshido - quite a lot of info on there
It also depends on why you want to learn each art. Some people actually want to learn an art, not just a way of fighting. Depends if you want to learn self defense or a martial art, the two are not the same IMO.
Re: that video, we did similar fighting in karate, people moving with pads etc. In JiuJitsu resistance was always there! Obviously not when learning new moves but once practised we'd 'spar' at the end where you put up as much of a fight as possible, was bloody tiring!
Re: that video, we did similar fighting in karate, people moving with pads etc. In JiuJitsu resistance was always there! Obviously not when learning new moves but once practised we'd 'spar' at the end where you put up as much of a fight as possible, was bloody tiring!
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I doubt there is much 'aliveness' in most jujitsu or karate schools tbh...
we used to do 'sparing' in karate but it wasn't full contact - was always light sparring for points...
below seems to be a good guide:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=70155
Soldato
Its definitely worth it. It can teach you about balance if nothing else and at best give you an alternative view on life and how to use your energy to best effect
A better question would be are you worthy of the task? Many people wont ever really get martial arts but thats their failing, its not going to be everyones cup of tea
A better question would be are you worthy of the task? Many people wont ever really get martial arts but thats their failing, its not going to be everyones cup of tea
Karate isn't a full contact martial art though? Not sure why anyone would do Karate if they wanted full on fighting every session.
That doesn't mean that other martial arts are pointless though as there is a lot more to most martial arts than just fighting.
Sounds like Krav Maga is more suited to what you want.
Soldato
My brother in law has been learning karate for some time now and reached black belt level. He has been to ireland and a few other places where he won trophies etc. He must get a lot out of it as hes learnt a lot, has dicipline. Plus the local scumbags started to realise he was doing this seriousley and one night they tried to bash him about and ended up coming off the worse for it. Hilarious when you think they were around 16 to 20yrs old and he was 13 lol.
I would say it has defo adjusted him right as he doesnt have an attitude problem, isnt a waster or a druggy and keeps fit.
I would say it has defo adjusted him right as he doesnt have an attitude problem, isnt a waster or a druggy and keeps fit.
Just go away you stupid ****
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Karate isn't a full contact martial art though? Not sure why anyone would do Karate if they wanted full on fighting every session.
That doesn't mean that other martial arts are pointless though as there is a lot more to most martial arts than just fighting.
The whole reason why martial arts exist is to teach people how to fight- that is essentially what a 'martial' art is - it is a form of fighting - if you're not actually learning how to fight then you're essentially just role playing.
Certainly the pair work in karate, the light sparring for points and the 'Vs' etc.. in JuJitsu were essentially role playing with a compliant partner.
nah I think Judo will be fine.