Is martial arts actually worth doing?

The whole reason why martial arts exist is to teach people how to fight- that is essentially what a 'martial' art is - it is a form of fighting - if you're not actually learning how to fight then you're essentially just role playing.

Certainly the pair work in karate, the light sparring for points and the 'Vs' etc.. in JuJitsu were essentially role playing with a compliant partner.



nah I think Judo will be fine.

I think Wikipedia makes my point much better than I could write it:

Initially, the object of martial arts was self-defence and the preservation of life. Today, these needs do not continue to constitute any longer the primary reason for participation. Training in martial arts imparts many benefits to the trainee, both corporal and spiritual. Through systematic practice in the martial arts a person's physical fitness is boosted (strength, stamina, flexibility, movement coordination, etc.,) as the whole body is exercised and the whole muscular system is activated. In connection with the learning of correct breathing techniques and an improved and wholesome diet, martial arts are an effective way of fighting many problems and diseases of contemporary society and sedentary life, and, generally, of a weakened immune system.

Self-control, determination and concentration characterize the trainee, who always reacts productively and without stress when the circumstances demand it. Self-defense, then, and strong self-control result from serious training. Each individual learns about themselves, and not only do their capabilities improve, but also their sense of respect and justice.

According to Bruce Lee, martial arts also have the nature of an art, since there is emotional communication and complete emotional expression. Martial arts may also be described as a way for the individual to discover themselves and their environment.

I'm guessing you'll think the above is a load of BS though.
 
If it is for self defence I'd be on the look out for a class that actually teaches about the habitual acts of violence, situational awareness and preferably a class that has regular sessions in normal clothing.

Any place that faffs about making sure you have your belt tied properly or has you marching about doing formation kata all the time is probably not going to be overly practical. Bizarrely there are even some places teaching 'non-contact' sparring....

Having said that the actual style is academic providing you get an instructor with a proven track record and the ability to pass on his knowledge effectively.
 
I had a quick stint of doing chow gar and it was great.

Was not so much about fitness as such though, seemed to be really about saving your ass if you had to which for me was what I wanted ;)

Was quite tough though, the conditioning exercises were quite harsh and wasn't fun when the instructor would demo some things on you :p All character building as my step dad would say lol
 
True. But lets be honest he almost certainly didn't have a gun. In reality you pooed yourself at the thought of confrontation because you didn't have your keyboard with you.

If i followed your logic i could be in hospital now so...
 
I had a quick stint of doing chow gar and it was great.

Was not so much about fitness as such though, seemed to be really about saving your ass if you had to which for me was what I wanted ;)

Was quite tough though, the conditioning exercises were quite harsh and wasn't fun when the instructor would demo some things on you :p All character building as my step dad would say lol

All of the instructors (well Senseis to be precise) have been pretty 'harsh' and not held back when demonstrating, especially with higher grades, if you didn't block, you'd get hit or be forced to tap with a grimace!

Obviously it's all just tapping and touching each other, according to Dowie. :p
 
I'm guessing you'll think the above is a load of BS though.

Why are you trying to guess what I think simply because I've posted a pov you apparently don't like.

Tbh.. the above depends what you're applying it to - if the martial art is a load of 'bullshido' in the first place then yes - you're just role playing...

If you do get something spiritual from it then that's great but so long as you're aware that you're doing something that isn't particularly effective there isn't any harm. For example doing tai chi because you find it relaxes you, you're interested in Chinese culture, you want to stay supple etc.. is great. Doing tai chi because you're believe in 'qi' energy or doing tai chi for 'self defence' is a bit silly.

Perhpas its just because I'm a skeptic - FWIW I have similar views on Chinese medicine vs evidence based medicine - if it works then prove it tbh....
 
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Why are you trying to guess what I think simply because I've posted a pov you apparently don't like.

Tbh.. the above depends what you're applying it to - if the martial art is a load of 'bullshido' in the first place then yes - you're just role playing...

If you do get something spiritual from it then that's great but so long as you're aware that you're doing something that isn't particularly effective there isn't any harm. For example doing tai chi because you find it relaxes you, you're interested in Chinese culture, you want to stay supple etc.. is great. Doing tai chi because you're believe in 'qi' energy or doing tai chi for 'self defence' is a bit silly.

Perhpas its just because I'm a skeptic - FWIW I have similar views on Chinese medicine vs evidence based medicine - if it works then prove it tbh....

It's not that I don't like your POV, I was just going by your previous posts and assuming that if it's not full contact then you'd think it's a waste of time - something which clearly isn't the case.
 
I've done Judo, boxing and Aikido. I would say the Aikido is a waste of time unless you become really good (many yrs of going).. Boxing is the most physically demanding and teaches you how to put a good combination together as well as take a punch, and Judo is very pratical for when the ruckuss ends up on the ground, but doesn't take someone throwing punches at you into consideration. When I was heavily into Judo once upon a time, I was punched in the face from some fella while out on a night on the town with some pals. Came out of nowhere guy ran upto me from behind, I grabbed him with the intention to throw him since that is what I had been taught, but opted for a good nose cracking headbut instead, since I had a grip on his jacket collars. The move was just out of pure 'do the most damage' instinct. Guy had his face re-arranged, and no judo, boxing or aikido was of any help in that instance.
 
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If its for self defence, do Krav Maga, if its for fun, fitness, competition and you still want it to be useful, do MMA or failing that, kickboxing or boxing. Everything else is useless.

Trust me, I have an increasingly obscure combat sport sig.
 
Sure it would. My martial combat training taught me to deal with numerous weapons when unarmed.

Thats just a joke, unless you can move faster than a bullet (and i might need someone to run the maths on that to see if it is possible ) then you cant do anything when someone has a gun and you dont. The only exception is when the person with the gun is retarded, and when i say that i dont mean stupid. I mean mentally and physically retarded.

Sarcasm
 
Thats just a joke, unless you can move faster than a bullet (and i might need someone to run the maths on that to see if it is possible ) then you cant do anything when someone has a gun and you dont. The only exception is when the person with the gun is retarded, and when i say that i dont mean stupid. I mean mentally and physically retarded.

Sarcasm

For once you speak with some element of truth!

The only time you can disarm someone with a gun, is if they don't actually want to shoot you.

Normally these type of threads people start posting Self Ninja Pics. :p

Just for you, self Ninja pic! POW.

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Learn Krav Maga - it looks quite useful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnZ0sfOiuIM

You might as well be watching some WWF :rolleyes:

That entire video is choreographed. Yes it will aide you in street combat / warfare, it's a military martial art for the Israeli Army after all, but honestly if there's a gun pointed to the back of your head and the guys finger is on the trigger, by the time you spin around with all your Hong Kong Phooey nonsense, he'd of pulled the trigger a long time before you get round to do anything about it.
 
Agreed. A friend of mine tried krav maga for 3 or 4 months. It sounded like fun and was good exercise, but nothing's put into practise. Lots of being hit while wearing pads and predetermined moves - if a guy tries to stab you in this way you do this etc - without actual sparring.
 
I do BJJ for my ground game and general MMA/Thai Boxing for my stand up.

I love it. My trainers are people that compete and my BJJ trainer is current British Champion and is one of the UFC judges when they are in Europe so yeah not fat old person teaching people :)

My old trainer was Alex Reid... But guess peoples thoughts on him are so varied :D
 
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