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Is Russia's rash move into the Crimea a sign that...

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Golf1.6, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. Nasher

    Capodecina

    Joined: Nov 22, 2006

    Posts: 11,542

    Putin isn't popular, but there's no one else to vote for. Any valid opposition got thrown in jail or mysteriously found dead. It's a bit like you know....North Korea.
     
  2. efish

    Hitman

    Joined: Jan 11, 2014

    Posts: 879

    We don't all live on a diet of state controlled Russian media so no we don't all know.

    I am sure those in Russia with an authoritarian political perspective and a taste for big man politics truly believe or at least believe others should say what they are told to, as that's the commonly repeated line of spin that has been doing the rounds for years.

    I know some Iranian diplomats who make almost identical claims about the West, before taking out a snap shot form their wallet of their 14 year old son brandishing a Kalashnikov, who will bleed for the motherland etc.

    They live in the best of all possible worlds (despite claiming political asylum to live in the West) . 'The war with Iraq when you saw Iranian prisoners released by Iraq they were very thin, by contrast the Iraq prisoners released by Iran were very fat.' etc etc etc

    Goes on like this for hours, they are always evil we live in the best of all possible worlds, are the best and most wise people envied by our evil neighbors down the road.

    I take it part of this is cultural, not wanting to lose face dealing with the actual social reality and complexity; its just how arguments are presented when speech is restricted and you live in a state with a somewhat muscular form of nationalism.

    Its not universal, we don't all think like this as odd as that may seem.
     
  3. 4K8KW10

    Soldato

    Joined: Sep 2, 2017

    Posts: 5,272

    Really sad times, at least for me now, to live in this western world propaganda, lies, deceit and nonsense.
    The world is a really boring place to live now but it should get much better around 2030, once China becomes the largest GDP in the world. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/chi...argest-economy-its-time-for-us-to-shift-gears
    This might finally change our sad reality.
     
  4. Marmot

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Jan 26, 2012

    Posts: 1,348

    Location: London

    If you don't enjoy living in the western world of propaganda, lies, deceit and nonsense why don't you move to Russia?

    Seriously your posts are just bonkers and I'm pretty certain you're a troll.
     
  5. 4K8KW10

    Soldato

    Joined: Sep 2, 2017

    Posts: 5,272

    Because it isn't as easy as you might think. But one day... to Crimea :D
     
  6. efish

    Hitman

    Joined: Jan 11, 2014

    Posts: 879

    Android dreams of electric sheep.
     
  7. Nasher

    Capodecina

    Joined: Nov 22, 2006

    Posts: 11,542

    Western media isn't state controlled though, they make up their own stuff. Russian "News" sites like RT are basically Russian government propaganda sites disguised as news. It's not even that subtle.

    Just look at Russia's law on what the media can and can't do/say compared to Europe and the US. It's getting even stricter too. They are not allowed to say a bad word about Putin for instance...
     
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  8. efish

    Hitman

    Joined: Jan 11, 2014

    Posts: 879

    If you look 4K8KW10 has an issue determining the difference between a place and a thing. A cognitive/ processing thing.

    Make a comment about his own thought he views it as a comment on the Russian federation and in turn any comment made which does not compute with his own perspective on things is 'western propaganda'

    An idea of language where all communication is conducted between rival borg factions.

    Location is everything. Extremely constrictive idea, out of its proper place everything is a threat.

    Very anxious way to think about things.
     
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