Is Samsung B-Die still King on Ryzen?

iSaff · 28 Jul 2020 at 12:46

Hey, all, I built my first PC with first gen. Ryzen when b-die was needed, using G.Skill Trident Z RGB, but I've been eyeing up an upgrade from 16gb to 32 gb with Micron's Crucial's Ballistix which appear to offer a lot of value in terms of performance sans RGB, but was wondering about compaitibility and performance on Ryzen. Thanks.

Leighs · 28 Jul 2020 at 17:04

That was what I was thinking about two weeks ago when I upgrading my ryzen based pc based around a X470 Aorus gaming 7 wifi. Previously had a AB350M-Gaming 3 and had memory issues until I bought some 8 pack team group 3200mhz 16gb kit (Samsung b-die) from overclockers and they worked great with the XMP profile also working fine in my current board. Upgraded recently to a Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18 Hynix based kit. Admittedly I am no overclocker really and could only get this stable at 3200mhz through the gigabyte overclocking software that came with the board as the xmp profile did not work. I would have liked to have used the 8 pack Team group stuff but at time of buying it was £60 more and did not want to pay that.

iSaff · 28 Jul 2020 at 19:33

Leighs said:
That was what I was thinking about two weeks ago when I upgrading my ryzen based pc based around a X470 Aorus gaming 7 wifi. Previously had a AB350M-Gaming 3 and had memory issues until I bought some 8 pack team group 3200mhz 16gb kit (Samsung b-die) from overclockers and they worked great with the XMP profile also working fine in my current board. Upgraded recently to a Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18 Hynix based kit. Admittedly I am no overclocker really and could only get this stable at 3200mhz through the gigabyte overclocking software that came with the board as the xmp profile did not work. I would have liked to have used the 8 pack Team group stuff but at time of buying it was £60 more and did not want to pay that.

Interesting, I was under the impression the issues i had with 1st gen. Ryzen were almost all solved with Zen+ and X470. I've just overclocked my CPU, RAM overclocking is a lot more scary, that said, there are RAM calculators which apparently do all the work for you, perhaps you can look into that? I think X470 will be more capable than my board, RAM was an issue i really struggled with, it runs XMP b-die at 3600 on my Aorus (Gigabyte) K7 board, but after a couple of months it corrupts my OS and i have to do a fresh install.

Vince · 28 Jul 2020 at 19:39

Currently running some 3200 nanya a-die on a ryzen that just works at its xmp. It was a simple flick of a switch and its up and stable. Its currently even overclocked to 3466 and also seems to be working just fine. That is with a ryzen 3600. It was however exactly the same experience with a 2700x although I never tried pushing past 3200 with that chip.

Ive got 8 sticks of b-die in my 1st gen threadripper rig and that is a lot harder to get stable at higher memory clocks.

Mcnumpty2323 · 28 Jul 2020 at 19:50

Got micron on mine no problem
Though it's 3900x not earlier ryzen
Which was a bit picker with ram

Robert896r1 · 29 Jul 2020 at 08:26

If you want to oc and tighten all your timings to max, yes. If not, then pick whatever.

bdie is only good if you’re willing to oc and test a fair amount.

bdie has 2 main advantages. Very tight timings and scales with voltage without a wall.

iSaff · 29 Jul 2020 at 12:22

Robert896r1 said:
If you want to oc and tighten all your timings to max, yes. If not, then pick whatever.

bdie is only good if you’re willing to oc and test a fair amount.

bdie has 2 main advantages. Very tight timings and scales with voltage without a wall.

Would you say B-Die holds those advantages with later Ryzen, like Zen 2, as well?

Robert896r1 · 29 Jul 2020 at 12:30

iSaff said:
Would you say B-Die holds those advantages with later Ryzen, like Zen 2, as well?

They are advantages bdie has in general over other dies. Nothing to do with cpu.

RBImGuy · 30 Jul 2020 at 12:52

iSaff said:
Hey, all, I built my first PC with first gen. Ryzen when b-die was needed, using G.Skill Trident Z RGB, but I've been eyeing up an upgrade from 16gb to 32 gb with Micron's Crucial's Ballistix which appear to offer a lot of value in terms of performance sans RGB, but was wondering about compaitibility and performance on Ryzen. Thanks.

asus b350 plus board 3 years old.
had 16gb corsair lpx that couldn't do rated speed 3000mhz and was stuck at 2933mhz.
(tried a lot but was a no go)
Bought crucial ballistix 3600mhz 2 days ago and the new ram booted without an issue with rated speed.
Its part of my upgrade path for next gen ryzen.
next is a new mboard and then later the cpu.

Pretty impressed with the crucial e-die sticks.