Is there an AGP card much faster than my ATI800Pro/XT@570/570

NeilF · 7 Jun 2006 at 15:55

I have an ATI800Pro flashed to an XT running at 570/570... Are there any AGP cards notably faster than this? eg: 25-50% faster than will make a difference with current/next-gen games?

speeduk · 7 Jun 2006 at 16:03

Theres a 7800GS+ on ocuk that says its a 7900GT. That would be pretty much what you are after.

Darren555 · 7 Jun 2006 at 18:44

I moved from an X800XT to a Gainward BLISS 7800GS (7800GT) and it is significantly faster.

Link here

NeilF · 7 Jun 2006 at 22:10

Darren555 said:
I moved from an X800XT to a Gainward BLISS 7800GS (7800GT) and it is significantly faster.

Link here

I know this is hard to answer, but what do you mean by "significant"... Maybe a couple of examples of games you played and the FPS etc you noticed?

Thanks...

I can't help but think we'll see a few more of these kinds of cards to cash in on all the AGP crowd not upgrading to PCI.

Darren555 · 8 Jun 2006 at 00:08

Counterstrike Source stress test used to see 109fps with all settings maxed out at 1280 x 1024.
Now I get 140fps which is a good improvement considering CS:S & HL2 tend to favour ATI cards.

KarlMcWade · 8 Jun 2006 at 00:46

was thinking for getting one of these for my dothan rig can anyone run some test with one

upgrading from a x800xtpe at 600 core 600 mem

speeduk · 8 Jun 2006 at 00:59

Well I would get the 7900GT. Basically a 7800GTX which would be a big upgrade.

Going on FEAR benchmarks.

1280x1024 4xaa 16xAF
x850xtpe = 26fps
7800gt = 32fps
7800gtx = 37fps

The 7900gt would be almost identical to the 7800gtx but would overclock quite a lot.

KarlMcWade · 8 Jun 2006 at 01:21

thanks anyidea what cpu was used speeduk

KarlMcWade · 8 Jun 2006 at 01:24

NeilFawcett said:
I have an ATI800Pro flashed to an XT running at 570/570... Are there any AGP cards notably faster than this? eg: 25-50% faster than will make a difference with current/next-gen games?

just noticed you rig in sig mate and you are quite cpu limited a bigger oc would give better results

NeilF · 8 Jun 2006 at 09:20

KarlMcWade said:
just noticed you rig in sig mate and you are quite cpu limited a bigger oc would give better results

My CPU is basically as fast as it can go... and more overclocking and I get hangs/freezes... And there is no faster CPU available for the MB.

This 3Ghz chip isn't nearly as overclockable as my old 2.4 one which I could overclock by about 20%.

I'd have to upgrade my MB and CPU, and therefore do an operating system reinstall/rebuild. Ideally, if I could find a GFX card that would increase my frame rate 50-75%, I'd take that simpler (and hopefully cheaper) route.

At the moment I can play games like Fear, HL2 and Oblivion fairly OK... eg: 800x600 with a lot of detail at a min of 25-35fps etc..

KarlMcWade · 9 Jun 2006 at 02:38

i have 2 p4 2.4 chips, one is a B core @3.5 (htpc) other is a C core at 3.4 (in my shuttle)

you get a better increase if you went dothan power ct49 adaptor route

NeilF · 9 Jun 2006 at 09:52

KarlMcWade said:
i have 2 p4 2.4 chips, one is a B core @3.5 (htpc) other is a C core at 3.4 (in my shuttle)

you get a better increase if you went dothan power ct49 adaptor route

What on earth is a ct49 adaptor route? I've done a google & search here with no joy!

NeilF · 9 Jun 2006 at 11:55

NeilFawcett said:
What on earth is a ct49 adaptor route? I've done a google & search here with no joy!

AHHH! Were you refering to an Asus ct-479??? Don't think that will work on my MB

davecarter · 9 Jun 2006 at 13:36

NeilFawcett said:
My CPU is basically as fast as it can go... and more overclocking and I get hangs/freezes... And there is no faster CPU available for the MB.

This 3Ghz chip isn't nearly as overclockable as my old 2.4 one which I could overclock by about 20%.

I'd have to upgrade my MB and CPU, and therefore do an operating system reinstall/rebuild. Ideally, if I could find a GFX card that would increase my frame rate 50-75%, I'd take that simpler (and hopefully cheaper) route.

At the moment I can play games like Fear, HL2 and Oblivion fairly OK... eg: 800x600 with a lot of detail at a min of 25-35fps etc..

I have a similar CPU to yours P4-2.8 OC to 3.06 and last week purchased a 7800GS+
Put it this way the card flys at everything I have thrown at it even with this cpu
HL Lost coast stress test 1280x1024, 4xAA, 4xAS, HDR 70fps
Fine for me as im in the same situation and dont want to upgrade the whole MB, CPU for at least another 12 months

NeilF · 9 Jun 2006 at 13:53

davecarter said:
I have a similar CPU to yours P4-2.8 OC to 3.06 and last week purchased a 7800GS+
Put it this way the card flys at everything I have thrown at it even with this cpu
HL Lost coast stress test 1280x1024, 4xAA, 4xAS, HDR 70fps
Fine for me as im in the same situation and dont want to upgrade the whole MB, CPU for at least another 12 months

Out of interest, is this just a figure you've approxiamated? Or is it from a "stress test"?

If it is a proper test I'll run mine thru the same test if you can tell me how and compare the fps... At least it will give me an idea...

ps: Of course that card is very expensive, and I can't help but think a MB & CPU upgrade would produce as much (if not more) of an improvement? (Mind you there's be memory as well to worry about :confused:

)

davecarter · 9 Jun 2006 at 13:58

NeilFawcett said:
Out of interest, is this just a figure you've approxiamated? Or is it from a "stress test"?

If it is a proper test I'll run mine thru the same test if you can tell me how and compare the fps... At least it will give me an idea...

ps: Of course that card is very expensive, and I can't help but think a MB & CPU upgrade would produce as much (if not more) of an improvement? (Mind you there's be memory as well to worry about )

That was a proper stress test, Memory is important as well i guess which is why i plumped for 2 GB of corsair DDR XMS3500LL Pro earlier in the year.

NeilF · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:06

davecarter said:
That was a proper stress test, Memory is important as well i guess which is why i plumped for 2 GB of corsair DDR XMS3500LL Pro earlier in the year.

Are you able to tell me, or point me to somewhere, to explain how you would run such a stree test? I've googled, but not found anything :rolleyes:

davecarter · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:12

NeilFawcett said:
Are you able to tell me, or point me to somewhere, to explain how you would run such a stree test? I've googled, but not found anything

Isn't it just an option on the main menu, im pretty sure it is but cant check til i get home
It only appears on Lost Coast though not HL2

NeilF · 9 Jun 2006 at 15:32

davecarter said:
Isn't it just an option on the main menu, im pretty sure it is but cant check til i get home
It only appears on Lost Coast though not HL2

I'll have a looky tonight as well... Thanks!

NeilF · 9 Jun 2006 at 20:20

davecarter said:
I have a similar CPU to yours P4-2.8 OC to 3.06 and last week purchased a 7800GS+
Put it this way the card flys at everything I have thrown at it even with this cpu
HL Lost coast stress test 1280x1024, 4xAA, 4xAS, HDR 70fps
Fine for me as im in the same situation and dont want to upgrade the whole MB, CPU for at least another 12 months

Right @ 1280x1024, 4xAA, 4xAS I get 44fps. Now I assume I have HDR going as well? As that's the whole point of the demo isn't it?

So basically you're about 60% faster in this test...