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Is this gen worth the cost?

You need to be asking "best bang for the buck" really as no new tech is ever really worth the premium value for money wise, provided we are talking similar functionality of course.

I think this current generation is more messed up than usual and not worth the cost, in answer to your original question though.
 
I too am waiting for that amazing deal (that will never exist) to push me away from my HD5850. (HIS version with their cooler and overclock out of the box)

At 1080x1920 it's never choked on anything - the only reason I want to upgrade is that little "I want to" itch that never quite goes away.

I'm sure if I played on some amazing 120FPS system, or tried surround gaming and really liked it, or something like that I'd go back to my current system and find it lacking, but in the absence of a direct comparison of that sort the HD5850 just seems to keep on trucking.
 
FoxEye said:
There are (at least) two ways to measure value for money tho.

Compared to the competition (as you are doing), or compared to last generations price and performance.

Just because the 7970 is better value for money than the 680 (or vice versa) doesn't mean they're good value for money in and of themselves.

As for the 660, yeah I'd buy one if it was £150. No doubt.
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I understand what you're saying but what is a lot of money and what isn't is down to each individuals personal circumstances.

While £800 is not pocket change to me it's not a massive sum of money either.
 
Cleeecooo said:
I've said it many times before, but Greg didn't get value for money with his 680s

What he did get however, was gaming at high quality before the people who got the better value 670s ;)
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I wouldn't argue with that and previous generations I would have been looking at the 670/7950 and maybe even the 660TI/7850 as a wise buy. I was just fed up of 'middle of the road'.
 
hi ive got a 580 at mo but want sumthin faster ,i am gonna wait for the next gen nvidia's to come out next year and then get a 670/680 pendin prices ,will fall abit i hope 50quid would b nice :D
 
Cleeecooo said:
I still maintain that GK104 is mid range, nvidia just pwned AMD like intel did with SB :p
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It 100% is, everyone needs AMD to do as well as possible to keep Nvidia honest.

I have no idea why AMD released the 7970 with such poor out of the box performance in comparison to the old gen gtx580 when it was obvious it had more potential, they could have sold all they made for that 3-4 months they ruled the GFX card world !
Also we would have got the proper full fat kepler GK110 in the 680's and they would not have cost more because even us idiots, would not pay it :D
 
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Twofold imo-

1. Amd's performance was lacking because of GCN, it's not an excuse from me but that's why, they probably could have waited another couple of months to get better, but that= zero sales leaving Nvidia selling the top dog aka 580.

2. The low clocks, because they had to ship them with low clocks in order to get them all out the door.

There is a new power delivery feature in the 79's that enables more cores to be used instead of binned, 79's come on different stock voltage- some on very low v and some that [email protected].

The lower the v, the better clocks on air but they are all limited to +1.25v.

If the new feature wasn't there, they would have had to bin a lot more full fat working chips into 7950's, rather than sell them all as 7970's, so the faulty 7970's could get shaders lopped off and go into the 7950 trays=less faulty cores.

There is an AMD tech on overclock.net that explained the power thing, but if you want to read about it-you need to find it yourself.

I also doubt the GK110 in the 680's, as Nvidia were/(maybe are) still struggling for yields, if it doesn't get a price reduction, then it may confirm the yield problems-unless it is the fact that they are selling by the bucketload.

But AMD are selling by the bucketload at the moment, unless Nvidia do a price shake up soon to come in line, AMD will only sell more and gain market share and investors will hit the roof!

Nvidia have a diamond chip on there hands, hence a mid core gpu auto overclocking like a beast on high voltage(hence the lockdown), it must have scared the life out of AMD as that's the best they have.



If they could have got it out, I guarantee you it would be out, as technically(I know there's nothing in it) with the GHz and driver improvements, for the first time in years, AMD have the fastest single gpu on sale, and Nvidia won't be happy one little bit.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
Sensible at the current pricing may be, but you are forgetting the 7950 was at £330 and the 7970 was at £430-£450 before the price drop in the more recent months.
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You could buy brand new 7970s for £330 a few weeks after they were released, I still have the invoivce for mine.

If I'd of wanted a 7950 I could have got one for £260 I think it was at the time.
 
I'm on a 4890, which demolished anything at 1650res but now I have gone up to 1080, I can see things struggling at the seams. Feels like the right time to jump up (and I am fancying the 600 range for £160 on here). That is a good 3 gens or so behind, so worthwhile I think.
 
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