Is this graphics card fake?

giannaras13 · 9 May 2018 at 13:31

Hi,

I bought a used graphics card from a famous Uk store for second hand items(I won't say the name). It was strange for me that I could not find information about this model, but I said ok let's see. The model was AMD R7 240 2GB GDDR 5 but I never found any model like that. The only model I can see is the one with the DDR3. I received and I saw the brand name and it was quite disappointing. Do you think this is fake and I need to return it back?

Thanks

pgi947 · 9 May 2018 at 13:32

Plug it in, run gpuz and find out?

giannaras13 · 9 May 2018 at 13:42

pgi947 said:
Plug it in, run gpuz and find out?

So that means that if all the info from the gpuz match the info of the original one, it is legit?

Armageus · 9 May 2018 at 13:48

Have you got any larger images, as it's difficult to make anything out from those.

If you have, then it's fairly easy for us to identify whether it is a genuine board or not, or one of the common fakes (as there have been a few recently).

EDIT:
There definitely is a 2GB DDR5 version of the R7 240, as listed in the table on AMD's site here:
https://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/r7#

d_brennen · 9 May 2018 at 13:49

Can't enlarge the pictures here, what does the sticker on the back say? Should have an SKU that with a little GoogleFu will probably narrow it down.

I doubt eBay fraudsters will be faking a 240. I have seen instances of cards with fake bios info that can fool software though, but IIRC this was nvidia cards a while back. Probably possible for AMD too

giannaras13 · 9 May 2018 at 14:09

My problem is that I can't use it with the gpuz as I am waiting for the cpu to come because I am building up a budget pc for my girlfriend.
I installed an app for scanning barcodes. I scanned other parts like an hynix ram , a western digital hard disk and a mouse pad and it worked, you can see their models.
Then I did the same for the sticker of the graphics card and it gave me a number '123456789' . I guess it is funny

I will try to post again the photos as url so you can see them on the hosting site, detailed.

giannaras13 · 9 May 2018 at 14:11

guys here you can see the photos and zoom

https://postimg.cc/gallery/2p2dlnph4/

MrRockliffe · 9 May 2018 at 14:19

You'll have to plug it in to see - it's essentially impossible otherwise.

Armageus · 9 May 2018 at 14:44

Manufacturer logo is "Graphicsplayer", which can be found on chinese import sites and isn't an AMD board partner (https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDPartnersAIBOESystemBuilder.aspx#AIBRegional), so at best is dodgy.

Board layout is wrong compared to reference R7 240's (and majority of AMD boards for a long time) - e.g. HDMI is generally in the middle of the DVI and VGA and has been since around 5xxx series cards.

Until you plug it and attempt to install drivers, scan with GPU-Z then it's hard to be sure, but not looking good imo

Edit:
Sticker says DDR5 which there definitely isn't - 240 is either ddr3 or gddr5

mikedigitales · 9 May 2018 at 15:09

There are a lot of fake graphics cards on the bay, generally if it's not a brand sold elsewhere, and it's half the price of all the others on there - it'll be a fake.

Kelt · 9 May 2018 at 15:28

Be interesting to see if it can run Crysis...

Rannoch · 9 May 2018 at 15:34

Kelt said:
Be interesting to see if it can run Crysis...

It will run it. Might be hard to play mind you

Kelt · 9 May 2018 at 16:13

Vargas said:
It will run it. Might be hard to play mind you

I have my doubts

Rannoch · 9 May 2018 at 16:18

Kelt said:
I have my doubts

640x480 low detail?

Freddie1980 · 9 May 2018 at 17:24

It's probably a Chinese import using a custom board design. I doubt anyone would bother to fake such a low end card.

Armageus · 9 May 2018 at 17:37

Freddie1980 said:
It's probably a Chinese import using a custom board design. I doubt anyone would bother to fake such a low end card.

Even low end cards are lol money these days. For cost of an old GPU, a sticker and a quick bios mod there's still room for a decent profit (and even less likely to be spotted by target market imo)

giannaras13 · 9 May 2018 at 18:37

Someone was selling this card on ebay https://picclick.co.uk/GEmpire-AMD-Radeon-R7-240-2048MB-GDDR5-Graphics-112795064159.html
He sold it for 27 pounds. I bought it for 35. I am going to return it. The same store has the gtx 650 2gb gddr 5 for 5£ more. I hope this time they won't send me a fake one.
I checked Russian sites and they sell them . There is also a user on youtube who claims the original and the Graphicsplayer give the same FPS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHygnsLJAqk

rhysduck · 9 May 2018 at 18:40

I would stay clear of the same store/seller now that you know they deal in fakes.
Stop using them, report them. Buy elsewhere.

Rannoch · 9 May 2018 at 18:53

pgi947 said:
Plug it in, run gpuz and find out?

Have you done this?

giannaras13 · 9 May 2018 at 19:27

rhysduck said:
I would stay clear of the same store/seller now that you know they deal in fakes.
Stop using them, report them. Buy elsewhere.

You are right, but i bought there things from there and they were fine (just like millions in the UK). My problem is how a store buys from someone a fake gpu ? They don't even care ? Because someone sold it there