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Terrorist sympathiser and anti-Brit? Colour me surprised.
Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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And what exactly do you want them to have done about it? By all means perhaps they should be told to return home if our way of life is so misaligned to their values, but do you really want effectively mob rule and people beaten to death for showing support for their beliefs (no matter how deplorable they are)? If so, then how are we any different/better?
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What would you like Londoners to have done, given that this was all spontaneous? Counter-protests take time to organise.
At least the police made several arrests.
Not sure sympathsing with Palestinians makes me support terrorism...
Also it's fairly British to whine about fellow Brits, national pass-time and all that.
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You're the one conflating a terrorist attack on innocent people with the Palestinian genpop.
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Is 200 people turning up at a protest a sign that all muslims celebrate murder, rape and the death of children ? Because Neil seemed to think it was hence why he used it as a counter to my point that muslims don't all celebrate these things.
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How do you feel about applying that logic to Israeli illegal settlement in the West Bank?
"Israel should have thought about the consequences before they decided to illegally settle land over the course of decades".
My take is that Israeli settlement is completely unfounded, and without them doing so, the region would sit in peace, because Hamas would never have gained such a foothold within Palestinian territory without Israel continuing and continuing to steal land.
It's a desperate and terrible situation that's unfolding now, but you can easily make an argument that both know the consequences of their actions and should know better, it's not just one side.
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It's terrorism pure and simple. It's not justified in any way. You can support the cause without supporting the actions of terrorists.
I'm not convinced if Israel gave them what they want it'd end. Hamas and others want the complete destruction of Israel.
Israel gets a lot of stick for its actions but people also fail to realise I think just how it is for them also. Surrounded by countries that would be happy to see Israel wiped from the map.
Of course Israel isn't perfect either. Not country is. What might not have helped is that over recent years relations have normalised with some of it's neighbours somewhat which has made the two-state solution less important for Israel to achieve. But maybe that wouldn't stop the hatred anyway, but should be done none-the-less (imo). The U.S have been trying to mediate on that for like 12 years but both sides likely to blame at different times for it not happening, thus far. In 2022 Biden was saying it would get his full backing, and it has never been off the table completely.
We can all have opinions on this but it's a highly complex matter. And of course there's also the religion differences too.
This I think is right.
“If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel'”
― Benjamin Netanyahu
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Might want to tell the BBC
It was claimed by a Palestinian politician an hr or so ago, onscreen in an interview with abc in Australia:
Palestinian politician claims Hamas ready to swap hostages
A Palestinian political leader says terrorist group Hamas is ready to free civilian hostages if Israel accepts an immediate ceasefire, claiming the militants have agreed not to carry out executions.
www.abc.net.au
I sincerely do not think that I have done so.
Currently of the regrettable belief that Israel should follow-through for once and suppress Hamas completely.
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They protested in an area where people are sympathetic towards them, no doubt. I can't imagine they'd make much success trying that in Stoke.
Do you not think that perhaps that quotation is a bit disingenuous given that Israel has been illegally settling in the West Bank for decades? - essentially stealing Palestinian land, the end game of which is, surprise surprise, no more Palestine.
I am not excusing violence from Hamas for one second, but that is a really badly simplistic way to look at it.
we dont really hear much from the media about that when its going on daily so most are blind to it llegally settling for decades and slowly shrinking , till something like this happens , not to say im defending what Hamas is doing to civilians its sickening
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This is unfortunately the truth.
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I don't really care about that, my point is that some people here are trying to label muslims as a whole as being fans of rape and killing children. Neil used 200 people protesting for Palestine in London as suppossed evidence of this and then came out with some absurd nonsense about how the other 9 million citizens should have magically know about this protest and turned up themselves.
It's moronic logic.
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I'm surprised it took so long for the thread to degenerate into all Muslims are the same, they can't integrate and their favourite pastime is watching people of other religions get blown up etc.
Essentially, Tommy Robinson entered the chat.
Essentially, Tommy Robinson entered the chat.
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Outside the Israeli embassy with counter protestors?
Agreed, however the will need to send Mossad on a daytrip to Doha to complete the task.
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