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Both sides are just bad as each other, that's what war does to people turns them into monsters.
That is where you are entirely wrong. To try and assign some sort of moral equivalence between Hamas/Hezbollah/ISIS and the IDF is what is wrong with the world. Sometimes, good people do bad things. Happens all the time in multiple contexts. But bad people doing very very bad things is not the same as the first.

The Jews were assigned land in their ancestral homeland legally by those who held the mandate and the world powers who won against the Axis powers in 1918 and again in 1945. They were entitled to do it in the same way that any government can expropriate property for example in HS2 buildout. Whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant. The division was rejected by the Arabs in it's entirety. They refused to accept it and surrounding Arab nations waged war on Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 in which they lost even more territory. At which point, 60 years later they wanted a take back but that ship had long sailed.

The Jews are now in possession of land they have paid for dearly for with their blood and they are not going to give it up. The sooner the Arabs come to terms with that and stop their continual calls for extermination of the Jews, yes Jews, the clearing of the land from River to Sea the sooner their can have peace and a life with a future.
 
This is unfortunately the truth.
Israel continuously steal land from Palestine. Just because they have enough power to take it seemingly peacefully without too much violence doesn't mean that Israel doesn't also seek the end, or at least total minimalistaion of Palestine.
 
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And those 9 million people did *** all about it
So you want to curtail people’s freedoms now? That’s a small group of people shouting and saying albeit distasteful **** but unless it’s illegal they are breaking no laws.

You need to go outside and breath some fresh air, you’re practically frothing at the mouth with your comments.

Bet you believe the country is being taken over by Muslims or some other clap trap.
 
and if the Palestinians put down their weapons there would be no more west bank.nI don't think it is a meaningful comment when both sides want each other eliminated.
That's ok, one side is about to get it's wish, but not the way they intended I think.
 
and if the Palestinians put down their weapons there would be no more west bank.nI don't think it is a meaningful comment when both sides want each other eliminated.

no land , and live as second class people I imagine which they pretty much are already
 
That is where you are entirely wrong. To try and assign some sort of moral equivalence between Hamas/Hezbollah/ISIS and the IDF is what is wrong with the world. Sometimes, good people do bad things. Happens all the time in multiple contexts. But bad people doing very very bad things is not the same as the first.

The Jews were assigned land in their ancestral homeland legally by those who held the mandate and the world powers who won against the Axis powers in 1918 and again in 1945. They were entitled to do it in the same way that any government can expropriate property for example in HS2 buildout. Whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant. The division was rejected by the Arabs in it's entirety. They refused to accept it and surrounding Arab nations waged war on Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 in which they lost even more territory. At which point, 60 years later they wanted a take back but that ship had long sailed.

The Jews are now in possession of land they have paid for dearly for with their blood and they are not going to give it up. The sooner the Arabs come to terms with that and stop their continual calls for extermination of the Jews, yes Jews, the clearing of the land from River to Sea the sooner their can have peace and a life with a future.
I don't think your assertion that the outcome of ww2 means that the people living in that region for centuries should have to accept any 'deal' offered to them is as ironclad as you think it is. On balance, that's generally the way things go, but it's a bit more complicated in this situation.
 
Do you not think that perhaps that quotation is a bit disingenuous given that Israel has been illegally settling in the West Bank for decades? - essentially stealing Palestinian land, the end game of which is, surprise surprise, no more Palestine.

I am not excusing violence from Hamas for one second, but that is a really badly simplistic way to look at it.
That is where the two-state solution comes in. A State of Palestine next to the State of Israel. That is what should have been agreed by now and yes, Israel is at least partly at blame for that. The U.S have I believe been trying to mediate on that for 12years or so.
But even that doesn't mean Hamas would stop. There would be other reasons probably.
 
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I don't think your assertion that the outcome of ww2 means that the people living in that region for centuries should have to accept any 'deal' offered to them is as ironclad as you think it is. On balance, that's generally the way things go, but it's a bit more complicated in this situation.
If anything, the situation is much simpler now.
 
From what ive read its been tit for tat for years between Israel and Palestine.
No doubt the rocket strikes and hostage taking were retaliation for something.

I just feel for the cililians who dont care if their neighbours are israeli or palestinian and just want to live their lives.

Gaza being cut off from food, water and electric means it wont be long before hundreds of thousands are dead. The hostages I doubt will make it.

All the people in EU / World on news that say things like “These people are commiting war crimes and must be brought to trial” yeh, good luck with that! Pretty sure they wont book a flight to X to hand themselves in to be tried.

Similar to charities / organisations trying to sort a humanitarian passage for supplies. I very much doubt anything in and out if Gaza wont be allowed until maybe all hostages are freed.

How many Palestinians and how many Israelis live in Gaza?

I’m actually surprised the whole of Gaza isnt flat already after 5000 rockets were fired into Israel
 
That is where the two-state solution comes in. A State of Palestine next to the State of Israel. That is what should have been agreed by now and yes, Israel is at least partly at blame for that. The U.S have I believe been trying to mediate on that for 12years or so.
But even that doesn't mean Hamas would stop. There would be other reasons probably.

The trouble is, i don't believe for a second that even this would stop Islamic terrorist groups attacking Israel.
 
I get the impression that some people really want to say the settler families and people at the concert deserved it.
 
I’m actually surprised the whole of Gaza isnt flat already after 5000 rockets were fired into Israel
Just a brief look at the place on Google Maps would make it a bit easier to understand. It's quite a big place to level in 3 days, without collateral damage the other side of the border.
 
I don't think your assertion that the outcome of ww2 means that the people living in that region for centuries should have to accept any 'deal' offered to them is as ironclad as you think it is. On balance, that's generally the way things go, but it's a bit more complicated in this situation.
They didn't accept it. They waged war, lost, also lost land in the process, and here we are.

The possibility of losing territory should be considered before attacking your neighbor. If you think you should he able to try and destroy your neighbor, then just hit the reset buttone if you fail, well then it makes sense that you would just do it again and again.

Israel is demonstrating that its way of doing things produces better results for its people than many, if not all, of its neighbors. Israel would have been happy to just be a successful society. Despite being surrounded buy neighbors that have tried to destory them, they still demonstrate that their approach gets better results for their population.
 
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That is where the two-state solution comes in. A State of Palestine next to the State of Israel. That is what should have been agreed by now and yes, Israel is at least partly at blame for that. The U.S have I believe been trying to mediate on that for 12years or so.
But even that doesn't mean Hamas would stop. There would be other reasons probably.
It would still be the same reason: All Jews must be killed.
 
From what ive read its been tit for tat for years between Israel and Palestine.
No doubt the rocket strikes and hostage taking were retaliation for something.
Yes, being Jewish. Hamas wants to kill all Jews. They say it repeatedly, but some just refurse to believe them....even after their recent action demonstrating that they really, really, mean it.
 
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