lol ive not tried that approach before 
not so sure begging would work
not so sure begging would work It Professionals : How do you answer 'the salary question'
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Man of Honour
Just tell them you're aiming for the 22k end of the salary. 
It's not cheeky if you have teh skills for it - if the interview goes well and they offer you a job tell them what you expect. If you're not offered the 22k, suggest that upon successful completion of your probation you are put up to the 22k maybe?
It's not cheeky if you have teh skills for it - if the interview goes well and they offer you a job tell them what you expect. If you're not offered the 22k, suggest that upon successful completion of your probation you are put up to the 22k maybe?
Soldato
Tell them you earn 23-24k at the minute but would be willing to drop to 22k as you want to work for them.
Man of Honour
I wouldn't lie really as it could potentially backfire on him.
Soldato
I wouldn't lie really as it could potentially backfire on him.
He said he earns above 22k at the minute which includes shift work or something so it would be just a little white lie
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I've always been recommended to turn it around on them. There's a good rule of negotiating - never offer first!
Having said that, I've never done this (wish I had when I first got my current job!)
I actually earn slightly more than that, but thats with a shift allowance for working 12 hour shifts and days / nights. So i know i'm right in what i'm asking for. But i just don't want to sound like a douche when asking for it and get turned down because i've come across as having the wrong attitude and being money grabbing.
has anybody tried this and actually had it work ?
It seems to me i'm going to get marked as being a **** head for avoiding the question. I've never done negotiation so i've no idea. I may have 5/6 years of experience in IT, but with it being only 2 employers and 5 years of that with the same employer, i've very little experience of job hunting / interviews and this sort of stuff
has anybody tried this and actually had it work ?
It seems to me i'm going to get marked as being a **** head for avoiding the question. I've never done negotiation so i've no idea. I may have 5/6 years of experience in IT, but with it being only 2 employers and 5 years of that with the same employer, i've very little experience of job hunting / interviews and this sort of stuff
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I was more wondering more how i ask for the top end without sounding like a douche
This is business/work, you just tell them what you want if they ask
I recently got offered a new position and was asked what was I expecting salary wise, there wasn't even a range to go on, it really was pluck a figure out the air.
So I chose a number that was a healthy increase, but wasn't too high for my experience and too big a jump from what I was on now (even though it's a manager/consultant type job).
I said what I wanted, they offered more so I said thank you and took it
Now I know specifically what grade I'll be on in the company I now know that they are getting me 'cheap', but it's all good as still a very good salary imho and just gives me plenty of room to move up within the band
And not wanting to bang the drum but I'd agree that with 6 years exp you should be able to get something paying more.
I'm down in Fox land in the darkest depths of Devon where high paying IT jobs aren't exactly abundant, but even then I'd be expecting an experienced server support person to be getting at least 30k.
Where are you looking for jobs to not find any up North, I can think of a few companies off the top of my head who have large offices up there plus you've got plenty of big cities around there haven't you?
Don't read too much into requirements on job specs, they'll ask for everything but by no means will they get anyone with all that, especially not at those salaries! One of my previous jobs had a massive list of stuff they wanted people to know, not all of it relevant, that I didn't have.
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thanks for the in depth post
How exactly did you answer your question
"I'd like 25k please"
"i feel i deserve 25k please""
"with my experience, i was expecting 25k"
Not sure how to word it
How exactly did you answer your question
"I'd like 25k please"
"i feel i deserve 25k please""
"with my experience, i was expecting 25k"
Not sure how to word it
From what I remember of the phone call they said something along the lines of what sort of salary are you looking for, and I think I said 'I'm looking for a minimum of xyz'.
It's harder when you're asking for more than you get currently, if it's less then it's obvious to them
And no worries, I've had rather a lot of experience with job stuff in the last year so message via trust if you want.
It's harder when you're asking for more than you get currently, if it's less then it's obvious to them
And no worries, I've had rather a lot of experience with job stuff in the last year so message via trust if you want.
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Just tell them you expect £22k (or more maybe?) based on your level of experience and expertise, you'll only find this a problem if your experience is clearly not worth that, which either means your experience is rubbish or you've not 'explained' it well enough 
Do your research for similar jobs and quote a few of the higher salary ones, that'll at least show you've done your research. Also, I like a previous poster's idea of turning it back on them. Be confident with your answer regardless and make sure you are able to justify your response.
thanks for the in depth post
How exactly did you answer your question
"I'd like 25k please"
"i feel i deserve 25k please""
"with my experience, i was expecting 25k"
Not sure how to word it
"I'd like" would insinuate you'd accept less or you think you're not worth 25k. "I want" is a little harsh imo.
"I'm looking for 25k" This says that's what you want and nothing less will do, that's why we go to work. Obviously you never say that but we all know that's how it is and if they pay ain't right you're not going to leave a secure job for anything less than that amount. If the job doesn't pay that then you'll withdraw and go elsewhere.
Theres a range for a reason
I've not even had the interview yet so i've no idea what they will offer or what they expecting to have to offer.Its one huge game is this, and ive not successfully played it yet. My previous jobs were just with an advertised salary and that was that. Its common in IT unfortunately.
But needless to say i don't think they will be under the impression they can get server support techs with 5 / 6 years experience for 16k. That would be offered to somebody without much / any experience i would expect.
Cheers
needless to say if they did offer something like 18k i would decline. If thats what they are offering the job isn't at all what they are making it out to be.
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Soldato
I have 5 years of work related experience in IT, only a BTEC National in IT and i'm on £25K as an IT Systems Administrator. I feel i'm lucky, but i know a wide range of stuff and looking to do CCNA sometime again (when i have more networking experience) and also some sort of Microsoft qualification.
Don't do this. Never try and put the person who is interviewing you on the spot. Answer honestly about what you are seeking. If you don't want to say a figure then say something along the lines that you feel your experience warrants something at the upper end of the range. I've done plenty of interviews for staff and honesty on this question is always appreciated.
Cheers
I started a new job at the start of the year, I wasn't sure of myself asking for more money (via the agent) but it all came together in the end. Very happy with my salary and gave me confidence that I do know what I'm doing. I was looking at the time but I was also in very secure job so if it wasn't right I wasn't going anywhere.
Sometimes.
thanks
I had a feeling this would go against me rather than for me. Would you elaborate on why you want what you want in the answer, mention what you currently earn, your experience etc..
Or just get straight to the point, say what you're expecting and leave it at that. ?
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