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It was a fairly preposterous statement to be honest, what were you expecting?
Its official Canon 600D
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It was a fairly preposterous statement to be honest, what were you expecting?
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Sure it was...
"Confusingly however, apart from build quality (which is all but identical to the EOS 500D), the 550D has more in common with the prosumer EOS 7D, and - perhaps even more confusingly - it out-specifies the EOS 50D in many areas.
Central to the impressive specification of the EOS 550D is a high-spec movie mode which offers full HD capture at up to 30 fps, manual control over exposure, and the option to use an external stereo microphone. The new camera also inherits the EOS 7D's sophisticated metering system (which brings it a lot closer to similarly positioned Nikon SLRs).
So why has Canon apparently risked cannibalizing 7D sales by releasing such a similarly-specced, lower-end model?"
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos550d/
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I doubt they have, I imagine most 600d sales will be from the begineer or someone re-entering the market where the 7D will likely be something people upgrade to.
There's also the differing quality of lenses that the camera comes with. I doubt many people here would upgrade from a 40/50D or 450/500/550D to a 600D. They would likely be more interested in a 7D.
I also don't think it will be that long before you see a MK2 7D.
Thing with that though is what about the 5Dmk3?
I recently upgraded to a 7D from a 350D that I've had a few years.
Had the 5Dmk2 the newer features of the 7D I'd have gone for that in a heart beat instead.
If the 5D had all those features, it would then come down to simply being the difference between full frame and whether you need the extra reach the crop factor gives. Though I'm sure I'm not the only one who went for a 7D, even though eventually I want to be on a full frame of a similar spec.
It will be interesting to see where they go next.
Soldato
I'm sure the 7D must have had fairly good sales from beginners and or people re-entering the market, so I think 'that', is what he's talking about when he means cannibalising sales.
I know I was planning on getting a 7d but decided to put the money saved to areas that 'actually' make a difference to your image, like glass and lighting.
Would be interested in the rumours of Canon releasing a small'ish FF body camera, as my next upgrade will be FF, as 7d isn't much of an upgrade for what I need.
Not that I disagree with a lot of what you have said but even if they brought out a 5DMK3 it would never come down to just FF or crop when the difference in price would probably be £1k. Even now the difference in body price between the 7D and 5D2 is £600.
If they release a 7D Mk2 it still wont trample on the market of a full frame 5D MK3. Not when the price gap would still be so large imo
That's true, but the 7D is already an expensive body. If you are that serious, it's not much more to pay in the grand scheme of things.
There are so many bodies below the 7D that somebody that is new to photography, or is lightly experienced with, or just can't afford the 7D will go for.
I agree they will make some more distinctions between a 7D2 and 5D3 than I've said, but it seems like things are getting really crazy with so many bodies.
There are so many bodies below the 7D that somebody that is new to photography, or is lightly experienced with, or just can't afford the 7D will go for.
I agree they will make some more distinctions between a 7D2 and 5D3 than I've said, but it seems like things are getting really crazy with so many bodies.
Why did you take the d5000 back out of interest?
The main thing I see when comparing camera bodies on forums, is the amount of people that harp on about the size of lower spec bodies like the Canon XXXd range. Some people prefer the smaller bodies. For me, minimizing weight where possible massively increases my ability to even get a shot in the first place since I am more likely to be able to take my gear places and use it. Sometimes a 1kg body with a long white L attached is just not practical I'm afraid.
I agree Jaybee, I had a 1000D and I loved it. My wife loved it. When I sold it to a work collegue and bought a 50D my wife wouldn't use the 50D. It was too big for her to bother getting out.
A shame because she was getting into using the 1000. I regret not keeping a smaller form body for her.
A shame because she was getting into using the 1000. I regret not keeping a smaller form body for her.
Soldato
Still no jog wheel so I still won't buy one, as soon as Canon drop that ridiculously artificial product differentiation I'll go straight to an entry level body all this talk of build quality and handling doesn't really do it for me, I want small and light.
Oh yeah?
The jog dial wheel on the back of XXd series is not a big factor for me. I mean I wouldn't chose those bodies over a smaller one just for the dial.
Oh yeah?
The jog dial wheel on the back of XXd series is not a big factor for me. I mean I wouldn't chose those bodies over a smaller one just for the dial.
Neither would I until I used one. I literally half my time using one and making changes on the fly with the wheel. I couldn't go back to a body without one
Couple of previews say the grip is bigger and much better than the 550D's and much closer to the 60D's. They all seem to like the handling much more now. Bad thing is the build quality has gone down slightly and the body flex is more noticeable. Mostly positive though, especially the dpreview article...
Neither would I until I used one. I literally half my time using one and making changes on the fly with the wheel. I couldn't go back to a body without one
What's so good about the wheel? Convince me
I do hear a LOT of people saying it's awesome.What's so good about the wheel? Convince me
Especially in manual I find it much faster to change settings. One wheel does aperture the other shutter speed. Menus are faster to navigate and make changes. Quicker to make exposure and flash compensation changes.
Initially I thought it wouldn't matter. Having got used to it you find changes are so much faster and more fluid, menus faster to navigate and you wonder how you lived without it.
Go into a camera store and spend 10 minutes with a body making changes where the top dial will quickly change ISO and the back wheel will change flash compensation after touching one button. Same for metering and white balance and so on.
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Secondary settings screen, better burst, better buffer, better build quality, second settings dial, lots of small things add up to a big difference.
I have a friend who thinks her 550D is just like my 7D, and it's laughable.
550D is a fine camera, a close competitor to the 7D it is not.
The 60D is coming down in price - I can see it being very similarly priced to the 600D when it's launched. This is going to create a dilemma for me, they have a very comparable spec.
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