James Bond Returns... November 2019

antijoke · 25 Jul 2017 at 13:13

James Bond will return to US cinemas on November 8, 2019 with a traditional earlier release in the UK and the rest of the world.

https://twitter.com/007/status/889575964983914496

Let's hope they forget they made Spectre.

DrToffnar · 25 Jul 2017 at 13:25

Indeed. Atrocious film

SixTwoSix · 25 Jul 2017 at 13:40

...and QOS/Skyfall.

In fact Casino Royale was the only really good Craig bond.

snips86x · 25 Jul 2017 at 13:41

SixTwoSix said:
...and QOS/Skyfall.

In fact Casino Royale was the only really good Craig bond.

Agreed! One of the best along with GoldenEye

Cleisthenes · 25 Jul 2017 at 13:42

I liked Casino Royale and Skyfall, Spectre was definitely on the dodgy side though!

Wizzfizz · 25 Jul 2017 at 13:56

Skyfall and Spectre were utter trash imo. Loved the first two mind. Sam Mendes should stick to directing films with plastic bags; before and after.

Tombstone · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:35

Bah, will be too busy watching Kingsman Golden Circle for my fill of spy action

Uncle Petey · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:37

Tombstone said:
Bah, will be too busy watching Kingsman Golden Circle for my fill of spy action

I dunno, you might get a bit tired of watching it by the time November 2019 rolls around.

MookJong · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:41

Oh god make it stop....

While I'm here I might as well ask someone to explain the plot of the first half of Skyfall (the part up to the Island), I challenge you. I do this anytime someone says they enjoyed that film. I am yet to have anyone manage it.

I adore Casino Royale and thought the offerings since were incoherent trash.

dalehitchy1 · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:50

I never got into James bond and never 'got' why it's so popular. They are cheesy films but act serious and other films do what they try to do better.

I remember that scene with Brosnan on that wave with ice surfing. Most cringyest scene ever

Edit: this scene

Hades · 25 Jul 2017 at 14:53

Great news. CR was fantastic. I also enjoyed QoS and some parts of Spectre. But I think Daniel Craig is a great James Bond.

Cleisthenes · 25 Jul 2017 at 15:00

dalehitchy1 said:
I never got into James bond and never 'got' why it's so popular. They are cheesy films but act serious and other films do what they try to do better.

I remember that scene with Brosnan on that wave with ice surfing. Most cringyest scene ever

Edit: this scene

That CGI

Minstadave · 25 Jul 2017 at 15:01

Daniel Craig is very good as Bond, CR was top notch.

The next 3 though were utter garbage. Tragic waste. I can't understand how they can look at such a junk script and think "sure, that'll do!". I guess it'll still sell so they can just churn out rubbish.

MookJong · 25 Jul 2017 at 15:07

dalehitchy1 said:
I never got into James bond and never 'got' why it's so popular. They are cheesy films but act serious and other films do what they try to do better.

I remember that scene with Brosnan on that wave with ice surfing. Most cringyest scene ever

When I think of James Bond I actually forget Brosnan ever existed really. Connery is still the best Bond with Dr No, From Russia with love and Thunderball being my favourites films. I was never a fan of the Moore films after Live and let Die. For me Bond belongs in the Cold War with SPECTRE playing off both sides. Old school spying is hard to pull off in the digital world.

The scene in Dr No where Connery sits in wait of his assassin Dent, cooly playing solitaire with a pack of cards is one of my favourite in cinema."That's a Smith and Wesson and you've had your six.." amazing...

I would prefer to see a reboot in the correct era. Never going to happen though.

VincentHanna · 25 Jul 2017 at 15:21

dalehitchy1 said:
I never got into James bond and never 'got' why it's so popular. They are cheesy films but act serious and other films do what they try to do better.

I remember that scene with Brosnan on that wave with ice surfing. Most cringyest scene ever

Edit: this scene

How old are you? I grew up watching Bond on ITV.

Some of them are awful in hindsight, and most are very dated but as a boy they were great.

I once wrote a rambling synopsis of Quantum of Solace. I can't believe people prefer that to Skyfall!

I'll repost it here:

Plot
Immediately following the end of Casino Royale, Bond has captured Mr White and is taking him in for questioning

He's being pursued by two Alfa Romeos which should be pretty easy to get away from, seeing as he's driving a DBS and they are in 159 3.2 V6's.

You can't really see what happens in this lengthy sequence, because the chase is so badly edited. At the end Bond ends up taking Mr White in, during which we learn that (for reasons never explained) a loyal agent that has worked for 'M' for 8 years is actually a double agent for 'Quantum'. We then learn he doesn't have a penny to his name, other than a bank note from Le Chiffres money operation, that MI6 were supposed to be tracking anyway.

Turns out a guy in Haiti has just checked in to a hotel using a similar tracked bank note (do they have scanners in Haitian hotel cash registers?) So Bond immediately flies out there, breaks in to his hotel room, doesn't clear the room like a secret agent should and gets attacked and then stabs the guy in an artery.

On the way out of the hotel he checks the dead guys messages at reception and is given a mysterious brief case.

A woman appears outside in a Ford KA (because sponsorship) and a man starts really obviously following them on a motorbike.

She asks if Bond "has it", Bond opens the briefcase and it's some sort of contract to kill the woman next to him. She tries to shoot Bond, but he escapes then nicks a motorbike and follows her to some docks.

The woman speaks to a guy called Dominic and he apologises for trying to kill her. A fat general arrives on a boat, who turns out to be planning a coup in Bolivia with the help of Dominic, there is brief mention of some desert land that Dominic wants and the General says there is no oil there.

Dominic 'gives' the woman to the general, and tells him to get rid of her when he's done.

Bond has been watching all this happen from a considerable distance where he wouldn't be able to hear anything that has been said, and for some reason decides to drive his motorbike over some boats to save this complete stranger.

A boat chase ensues, again you can't really see what's happening but the woman gets knocked out, and at the end Bond throws an Anchor at another boat that is in pursuit and it stops the chase in dramatic fashion. I can't really work out how that happened. Bond pilots the boat away with the unconscious woman.

It's really not clear what happens next, but Bond steals some random guys 4x4, drives to an airport and somehow works out that Dominic is flying to Austria

Cut to the interior of a private jet and, OH NOES! Dominic is in cahoots with the CIA including a smarmy guy and Felix Leiter of all people! They will let a coup happen as long as they get the oil (politics!)

Bond goes to Austria, follows Dominic to an Opera. Steals a transmitter and overhears a Quantum meeting discussing their operation which needs 2000km more piping. He actually makes a comment on the radio and the stupid Quantum people all get up and he takes a picture on a Sony Ericsson mobile phone, that was probably high tech back in 2008 but now looks really dated. This is probably the best moment in the film.

In the hallway he runs in to Dominic & bodyguards, then gets chased by some goons. An English goon gets captured by Bond and Bond drops him off a building. Dominics car breaks his fall, but dastardly Dom has him killed!

Cut to London and it turns out the dead guy was an innocent secret service agent. M says "You shot an English agent!" - Bond fails to correct her, even though he could have cleared up this error by saying "Actually it was Dominic Greene and his men, not me" But by not correcting her, he gets struck off and all his cards are cancelled. He discovers this at a German airport. A check in assistant here is more than happy to help Bond by lying to some men who identify themselves as part of the security services about his ultimate destination. She tells them he is flying to Cairo. For all she knows Bond is a terrorist but he had a nice smile so she keeps quiet.

Cut to somewhere else in Italy. Bond is arriving by boat and walks up to a mans house - It's Mathis from Casino Royale! There's some apologies about having him tortured and interrogated and no sooner is that over that Mathis decides to join Bond on a trip to Bolivia, again for no reason because he seems to have quite a nice life with a younger lady.

A posh lady agent meets Bond in Bolivia, jumps immediately in to bed with him. They go to a party. The woman we last saw unconscious on a boat is there too and tells some of Dominics investors about a dodgy deal. Mathis talks to a police captain. Dom Greene nearly throws KA Driving woman off a balcony, Bond intervenes. A man falls down some stairs and his bad wig falls off.

Bond drives off with KA Woman. She is some sort of Agent. The police pull them over and Mathis beaten body is in the car! Bond uses the (still very much alive) Mathis as a bullet shield, kills the cops, holds Mathis as he dies then dumps his body in the trash and steals his wallet.

Suddenly it's the next day - They arrive at a dusty airstrip in the middle on nowhere and rent the biggest plane available to look at some co-ordinates They get attacked by a fighter plane, another badly edited chase ensues and they end up shot down in an underground lake. OMG! Dom Greene has only been stockpiling water. Cut do a village with a drowt issue. Bond and lady walk through the village (I never saw that below, during the air sequence) and luckily for them a bus is pulling up at the exact time they need it.

Bond goes back to hotel, M is there, posh lady agent is covered in oil (GOLDFINGER REF!) and M has put a capture of kill order on Bond. Bond easily takes out the 3 agents who have him in custody, despite being handcuffed and 'M' then decides that Bond might be on to something for no apparent reason and lets him get on with it.

The General is meeting Dom Greene in a fancy building with volatile fuel cells in the middle on nowhere. He makes the General sign a document which means Dom will supply the entire countries drinking water at TWICE THE PRICE they currently pay!!! Apparently Quantum don't have enough cash already, they need to fleece poor Bolivians with expensive utility bills? How dastardly this plot is! Bond and KA woman find out about this meeting - No idea how. Never explained.

Some explosions happen, the general gets rapey with a barmaid but Ford KA woman stabs him up. Bond fights little Dom who has a fire axe but little dom gets axed in the toes! Bond saves KA woman from a burning room by causing an explosion (like you do) and then interrogates Dom for info (off camera! - we've no idea what is said)

Then there's a scene with Vespers boyfriend, but again I don't know what this is about other than 'closure'

End plot.

dalehitchy1 · 25 Jul 2017 at 15:27

VincentHanna said:
How old are you? I grew up watching Bond on ITV.

Some of them are awful in hindsight, and most are very dated but as a boy they were great.

I once wrote a rambling synopsis of Quantum of Solace. I can't believe people prefer that to Skyfall!

I'll repost it here:

I'm 28. I've watched most since Brosnan so can't really comment on the older ones. Maybe it's them that were better. But I can't remember any bonds where I've been amazed.... There's been no stand out scenes for me.... And to be honest I barely remember them after watching. I wouldn't be able to tell you which one is which.

They come across to me as a typical fast and furious franchise lol

hornetstinger · 25 Jul 2017 at 15:28

dalehitchy1 said:
I'm 28. I've watched most since Brosnan so can't really comment on the older ones. But I can't remember any bonds where I've been amazed.... There's been no stand out scenes for me.... And to be honest I barely remember them after watching.

They come across to me as a typical fast and furious franchise lol

I can't stand anything newer than Goldeneye. That was the last good one.

Marsman · 25 Jul 2017 at 15:30

Same writing team, so I don't have a great deal of hope this will be good. Out of the 6 written by them, only Casino Royale is what I would call a good Bond film. The others are poor to average.

Given how particularly rubbish Die Another Day and The World is Not Enough are, how on earth they managed to create something as good as Casino Royale, I'll never know.

Maybe the addition of Paul Haggis to the writing team stopped them serving up more diarrhoea.

VincentHanna · 25 Jul 2017 at 15:38

dalehitchy1 said:
I'm 28. I've watched most since Brosnan so can't really comment on the older ones. Maybe it's them that were better. But I can't remember any bonds where I've been amazed.... There's been no stand out scenes for me.... And to be honest I barely remember them after watching. I wouldn't be able to tell you which one is which.

They come across to me as a typical fast and furious franchise lol

That'll be it then.

You are only 7 years younger than me, but I imagine you grew up with Harry Potter or some other big franchise like that.

GoldenEye was the first Bond I saw at the cinema in 95, but prior to that I used to watch Bonds that I'd recorded off TV over and over as a kid. I grew up with Roger Moore as 'my' Bond.

Brosnan was a good Bond in mainly bad movies. Culminating in 'Die Another Day' which is complete trash with the invisible car and the surfing and the Ice palace.

rubberduck · 25 Jul 2017 at 17:40

I am not hopeful as the producers will know they don't actually have to make anything approaching a good film in order to make a load of money.