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30+ goals last season suggests otherwise

Always seems to score against Arsenal playing as a striker as well

I was exagerating slightly and was more refering to this year, and more refering to the fact that before he was bought he'd managed a whole 9 goals at his best in the league, yes he was young, he didn't play every single game, he played plenty, and was bought for 26mil give or take, with a max goal haul of 9 in a single season.

Carroll is potentially going for 35mil, after scoring 11 in only 18 games, a goals to games ratio that Rooney has only beaten once, last year, with a great season. Since his great season, he's having by far and away his worst season.

Jakeke says Carroll with 34 goals might be about to go for 35million, Rooney went for 26 million after scoring 15 goals..........
 
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If you had £50m burning a hole in your pocket, why wouldn't you go chucking it at the likes of Atletico for Ageuro? Or see if Real can be persuaded to part with Benzema? Or use a chunk of it to get RvN on loan, til you can actually look to buy the kind of striker you really want in the summer?

Madness.

Yeah, totally forgot about Ruud. That's exactly the sort of player they should be after in the short-term.
 
If you had £50m burning a hole in your pocket, why wouldn't you go chucking it at the likes of Atletico for Ageuro? Or see if Real can be persuaded to part with Benzema? Or use a chunk of it to get RvN on loan, til you can actually look to buy the kind of striker you really want in the summer?

Madness.

Aguero publically signed a new contract with Athletico today, though its suggested the buyout clause was actually reduced, he doesn't seem to want to leave, has plenty of time left in his career. Forlan, doesn't, as I said, if either will go its Forlan and he'll want to go to a team that has Champs league football for the next few years before his career ends, which rules out Spurs and Liverpool.
 
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Apart from his goals last season, when has he ever been firing on all cylinders?

To be honest, it's just I can't explain how frustrating it is to see a player get paid so much money for being nothing short of average. Nevermind the fact he's stopping an on-form Hernandez from starting the majority of the time.

Rooney is one of the best players in the league because he is almost a complete player. Even a few seasons back when he wasnt scoring that many, he was awesome for us. Because a striker isnt scoring millons of goals doesnt mean that he is worthless.

He has put in plenty of good performances this season but has been injured and hasn't scored many. I still wouldn't sell or swap him for any other striker in the league.
 
I was exagerating slightly and was more refering to this year, and more refering to the fact that before he was bought he'd managed a whole 9 goals at his best in the league, yes he was young, he didn't play every single game, he played plenty, and was bought for 26mil give or take, with a max goal haul of 9 in a single season.

Carroll is potentially going for 35mil, after scoring 11 in only 18 games, a goals to games ration that Rooney for the first team beat(in the league) last year. Since his great season, he's having by far and away his worst season.

Jakeke says Carroll with 34 goals might be about to go for 35million, Rooney went for 26 million after scoring 15 goals..........

Rooney has world class ability though, that was clear to see following Euro 2004. Whilst his game may have changed since then he's still one of the best strikers in the world (when on form)

I dont think Carroll has ever shown the potential to be world class tbh
 
[J.D.C] Wayne contributes to the side in many other ways, and I think he's got 10 or so assists in the league this year.

Last year Wayne scored a lot and Berbs got a high assists tally, this year it's the other way round.

I wouldn't start Chico ahead of Rooney.
 
Age, nationality, and form come in to it a lot I would think. Then add on the last day multiplier and you get your final figure. Who knows it could end up a complete failure, or a complete bargain.
Nah sorry, there's no way a £35m player could end up being considered a bargain. Rio Ferdinand cost United almost that, has been excellent for many seasons, but he'd still never be called a bargain.

The best Liverpool can really hope for is that he proves his valuation. And then they've basically got someone who will only ever be useful for them while in form, and have absolutely no resale value when not.

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Yeah, totally forgot about Ruud. That's exactly the sort of player they should be after in the short-term.
Yeah Ruud would be perfect for them wouldn't he. Even if it cost them something stupid like £5m+ just to seal a loan, it would be better than £35m on Carroll.

Aguero publically signed a new contract with Athletico today, though its suggested the buyout clause was actually reduced, he doesn't seem to want to leave, has plenty of time left in his career. Forlan, doesn't, as I said, if either will go its Forlan and he'll want to go to a team that has Champs league football for the next few years before his career ends, which rules out Spurs and Liverpool.
I know Aguero would be unlikely, but you'd at least try, wouldn't you? "£50m Atletico, jobs a good 'un. Wink wink. Good boy, cough up now"
 
Unfortunately its the premium for English players, just a few to name, Carrick, Bent, Hargreves, SWP and Milner.

Personally don't put Rio or Rooney in there as I think they justified their price tags.

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@SkyBet: Some big money on Manchester United to sign Charlie Adam and Andy Reid's move to Blackpool prompts us to cut odds on Adam moving to Old Trafford from 8/1 to 1/4.

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Rooney has world class ability though, that was clear to see following Euro 2004. Whilst his game may have changed since then he's still one of the best strikers in the world (when on form)

I dont think Carroll has ever shown the potential to be world class tbh

This is the problem with most fans, not every player who can't do everything, is worthless. Not every player can be Messi or Ronaldo, that doesn't make them useless to a team.

Carroll is a very good goal scorer, he's the third highest scorer in the league in his first season, and he's missed a month due to injury, he's scored 3 less than Tevez, but 2 of those were penalties. Potential, coupled with the club not wanting to sell and the player not asking to leave = huge price.

Rooney may be great, personally I think he's only had a couple of "great" games this year, last year he had a great goal scoring season but he didn't look close to himself. He's mostly a withdrawn striker who likes to get involved, he's involved for 90 minutes but often won't score, last year he was often uninvolved for 89minutes, but also frequently scored.

Theres a handful of players in the world who do both at the same time, Rooney's dropped back to be more involved in the entire game, and his goal scoring has suffered.

Personally I don't think he's world class, his passing isn't fantastic, he has a MUCH better cross than most people give him credit for, he has a ridiculously powerful shot, but he's not a natural goal scorer, he's a ridiculously powerful runner but isn't known for his Messi style dribbling. Theres lots of things that are only average in his game.

The point is, different players for different roles, not every player has to be able to dribble through the entire team to win a game, nor defend, nor cross.

Carroll is a good goal scorer who has shown huge potential for a long career of scoring lots of goals, I would suggest that would make him well worth buying as a long term goal scoring player. Buy someone else to do the rest, thats how football works.

What if Carroll goes to liverpool for 35mil, scores 15 goals a season and never changes club, plays for call it 13 years till he's 35, that would mean 2.7million a year for him. Good value, thats the potential you're buying, and thats the price Newcastle associate with that potential, because they saw him as a player who could score 15+ goals a season, for 10-13 years for them.
 
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Unfortunately its the premium for English players, just a few to name, Carrick, Bent, Hargreves, SWP and Milner.
Except that at least the first three were proven quality players, whilst the last two were lolManCitySpending (I know SWP was before the billionaires, but it was still stupid money).

This is a Championship player with a semi-decent six month record in the Premiership. It's crazier than suggesting he was England's new saviour after about three games.
 
Suarez, proven international, £23 million, 139 goals, 222 appearances.

Carroll, 34 goals, 104 appearances and a caution for hitting an ex girlfriend, an assault conviction for glassing a man, sent home whilst on U19 duty for breaking a curfew, £35 million.
 
Unfortunately its the premium for English players, just a few to name, Carrick, Bent, Hargreves, SWP and Milner.

Personally don't put Rio or Rooney in there as I think they justified their price tags.

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I wouldnt worry about it. Fergie won't bother signing anyone at the moment. When giggs and scholes and vds all have decided what they are doing he will think about buying again. He has to think about losing gibson, carrick and as much as I hate to say it, hargreaves before worrying about buying anyone.
 
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