** January Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **
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"Initial reports of a £10m fee gave way to one in the region of £7.5m-£8m plus the inevitable add-ons. As to whether there's a release clause, we'll have to wait for the next Tottenham press conference to find that out..."
Great news. His record speaks for itself.
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Midfielder?
Cabaye, Guthrie, Ben Arfa, Abeid, Gosling, Jonas, Marveaux, Tiote, Obertan, S Ameobi, Vukic and Ferguson. Now I know there are some injuries in there at the moment, but that's still 12 first team midfielders.
Yes really.
How do you think that as a club we are being stupid.
I cant imagine it being near 47m but if it is then if we are getting 50% of that back plus what he did for us whilst he was playing it isn't such a bad deal.
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Because you've got a player who doesn't want to play for you back in Argentina playing golf still picking up his monthy wage packet. Name another club in the world that would find themselves in that situation? Do you really think Tevez would behave the way he is now were he still at United?
Tevez is making City looks like clowns and while you keep him on your books you've got your manager having to answer questions about him in every single press conference.
And the fact that you're holding out for a deal which suits City when you're a club that obviously doesn't need the transfer fee is even more bizarre.
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Guthrie did extremely well when Tiote hurt his knee. Am a big fan of Vukic good player for his age
Had this been anybody other than City they'd be getting praised for standing their ground. How many times have we heard fans say "let him rot in the reserves" when a player has asked for a transfer? Ok, he's playing golf rather than in the reserves but either way he's not contributing to the club and at least he's out of the way while he's in Argentina.
The money is meaningless to City. It's far more important for City to show that they won't be pushed into any deal that doesn't suit them or otherwise it will happen again and again.
The money is meaningless to City. It's far more important for City to show that they won't be pushed into any deal that doesn't suit them or otherwise it will happen again and again.
They aren't bad (especially Vukic who could prove to be very good), they are PL standard but if we are wanting to stay top 7 then we need players of a better calibre who are able to step into the breech.
I see where you coming from
but imo its not a priority. We seemed to have got a proven goal scorer in, just hope Ba not leaving could be a deadly partnership Defender is needed badly
Do we still have xisco on our wage bill? Think he went out on loan again. Him and Smith off our wage bill would be massive and would open more places in our squad. (over 100k a week I believe)
Any other club would have made sure Tevez was sold in the summer given he spent much of the previous year making it plainly clear he wanted to leave. Should City be praised for keeping him in an attempt to get his supposed market value? Not in my opinion. In this case you simply have to take a loss.
Arsenal didn't get what they probably should have done for Fabregas but ultimately they didn't really have a choice but to sell for what the buying club were willing to spend, City are no different..... well actually that's not true City could let Tevez walk away for free and it wouldn't impact them whatsoever
I see where you coming from
Defender is needed badly
Do we still have xisco on our wage bill? Think he went out on loan again. Him and Smith off our wage bill would be massive and would open more places in our squad. (over 100k a week I believe)
Believe Smith is off but not sure about Xisco.
I think Ridgewell would be a decent signing for us as we could do with someone a little more flexible and he can play LB or CB. Not really sure who else there is out there but I am sure our super scout will find someone
While Tevez was continuing to do his job on the pitch then there was no need for City or any other club to sell him in the summer unless somebody matched their fee. Just like Spurs didn't sell Modric as soon as he asked to leave (and he kicked up a fuss about playing too) and Utd didn't with Rooney either.
The situation changed once he refused to play but still, why bow down to Tevez if the money is of no importance to them? The reason why Arsenal sold and why most other clubs eventually sell is because of money, that doesn't matter to City.
Vastly reduced wages but he is picking up a wage because otherwise he will sue us.
He isn't doing anything to us. Exactly, all he is doing is creating media interest in everything to try and force us to sell.
We are holding out as a matter of principle, the fee is not relevant but we are not going to let him go for cheap just because Kia has a deal sorted and he wants to leave.
How any football fan can not support what we are doing in this situation is incredible.
Talking about us selling him in the Summer also, we would have done had Corinthians actually put money on the table and provided assurances that they can actually pay the rest. Kia tried to pull a fast one but it failed and he tried it again with AC.
We probably rejected the AC deal just because he had organised it and Khaldoon knows he is getting his portion via Galliani.
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Yeah, but the point is, what's to stop the next unhappy player then kicking up a similar fuss, knowing he'll get to walk away on a free and claim a tasty signing-on bonus somewhere else?
As BaZ/Biz have said, the guy deserves some punishment for what he's done, not just an easy move to the club of his choosing.
What exactly is the problem with Inter's proposed £20.7m bid? That to me reflects fair value for Tevez maybe not on his ability alone (although it's not far off) but any club has to factor in his mentality and the fact that he never stays at any one club for longer than 2 years
It seems to me City are holding off for an extremely unlikely deal
It seems to me City are holding off for an extremely unlikely deal
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Again you're forgetting two things, he WASN'T punished for refusing to play, because Mancini made this claim, alienated Tevez, and the investigation concluded he DIDN'T refuse to come on the pitch, Mancinin, getting spanked by Bayern, taking off a striker because he wanted to hopefully not concede more, then did want to bring on a striker for the end. Tevez, having ALREADY WARMED UP, said he didn't need to warm up and Mancini, in a bad mood, being a bad translator, threw a strop after already having a go at Dzeko and I think IIRC, then had a go at Zabaleta.
Mancini created the situation by acting like a petulant child and literally lying on camera about the incident to deflect from a pretty woeful performance against Bayern....... the rest is history. Mancini alienated Tevez, Mancini said Tevez would never play for them again. Then again IIRC after the investigation and Mancini was pretty much proven a twit, he left the door open for Tevez to return, who at that point didn't give a monkeys (and would you if your manager lied about you and caused a club investigation over things that never happened......just because he was in a bad mood?) smegged off and didn't bother to turn up to training(not his best move) at which point Mancini again slammed the door shut with maybe more justification. But did Tevez fail to show up to training before Mancini lied and stuck him in the reserves and treated him like crap for a month, no.
He wanted out, so did Ronaldo, so did Fabregas, both of these players played on FOR YEARS, professionally, without a problem with the manager, while playing at the top of their game with no issues. Lots of players want to leave, the "let them rot in the reserve" fans, are the ones who over react to every win and every loss.
Mancini got it wrong, Mancini devalued the transfer fee they could get with Tevez.
Think about it, he could have said nothing, kept it entirely private and let Tevez leave in the transfer window with no "official" problems..... you think they can get the same transfer fee now? The wage he's on he's getting around a million a month........ delayed and refusing offers is vindictive and stupid, not smart.
You're also forgetting FFP, money DOES matter to them, if they've got a hope in hell of making it inside the supposed rule limits every single million will matter. If Tevez doesn't go he'll collect ANOTHER 6-7mil off them before he could next be transfered as well as the always lowering transfer value as his contract gets shorter and shorter.
So sell him for 20mil today, sell him in summer, get offers of 15mil for him as people know City are more and more desperate but also pay him 6 mil between now and then, so that is an 11mil difference, not just 5 mil. FFP wise, the sooner they shift him the better, and holding out for 5 mil more, when it could cost you more than that in wages if he doesn't leave, is lunacy.
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I find it unlikely that many players will act the way Tevez has (most clubs look at the mentality of a player before signing them anyway making the possibility of being stuck with another Tevez even more unlikely). Maybe expecting any club to let a player of his ability to walk away on a free is unlikely but any bid of around 20m should have been enough compensation to simply sever all ties with him
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