January Transfer Window 2012/2013 Season Rumours/Signings

shine said:
The Utd fans were looking at the best overseas TV deal scenario plus their new sponsorship deals to get their figures. Also the largest increase scenario for the overseas deal could see the top club earn £50 million more than City got last year. However this is all speculation at this point.
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It also has to be considered that according to your original link, the Euro deals that have already been completed have been sold fr a 100% increase compared to the last deal, where as dm's figures are based on no growth on what is earnt.

And in the first overseas deals already signed for 2013-16, for Premier League games to be shown in Sweden, Denmark and Norway, it is understood they will earn the League around double what they earned last time.
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Previousely the league sold the rights in bulk to a 3rd party who split them up and sold them on, this time the rights are being sold individually/directly so its unlikely there wont be a significant increase in what the overseas deals are worth (and this is what is taking the time to get the deals completed).

Guesstimates are saying ~£2bn a season in total (up from £1.17bn) after everything has been signed.
 
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FrankJH said:
It also has to be considered that according to your original link, the Euro deals that have already been completed have been sold fr a 100% increase compared to the last deal, where as dm's figures are based on no growth on what is earnt.
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Indeed, I was reading something this morning on the train (I can't find the link now) that expected an even bigger increase in the US TV rights. If all the overseas rights go this way then even the top end estimates could be conservative! :eek:

I'm probably in the minority here but I'd like to see less money spent on transfers/wages and more on investing in the club (reducing debt, stadium, youth, scouting etc.).
 
shine said:
I'm probably in the minority here but I'd like to see less money spent on transfers/wages and more on investing in the club (reducing debt, stadium, youth, scouting etc.).
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I would go along with that also - but it will never happen because of the huge amounts of money we are talking about.

Its too critical for each club to remain where they are or improve, and therefore all the teams above think they have to also invest, it just goes on and on.

Especially with lower to mid-table teams, who are at bare bones levels (ie not able to rotate players during hectic schedules) just increases competitiveness all the time

DanH84 said:
I thought the pl clubs had gone through the first stage of agreeing spending caps?
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I believe they have, but clubs can still be bought with debt if required (which imo needs to change) , and the caps are only the 1st step in a long process
 
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shine said:
No agreement but there have been discussions. I'd imagine nothing will be agreed until everyone can assess the impact of Financial fair play (read: if UEFA actually punish clubs).

EDIT: This is the latest I'm aware of:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-or-financial-fair-play-measures-8320370.html
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As far as I'm aware on 18th December the Chairmen agreed in principle to a transfer and wage cap. Only link I could find at a quick browse is behind times paywall though. Oh and it's mentioned in the PL wiki.
 
DanH84 said:
As far as I'm aware on 18th December the Chairmen agreed in principle to a transfer and wage cap. Only link I could find at a quick browse is behind times paywall though. Oh and it's mentioned in the PL wiki.
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You're right but it was very difficult to find a link:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...irmen-agree-to-spending-controls-8424166.html

No details though - I hope they actually come up with something that works rather than something that looks good on paper but will never be implemented.
 
Will this just result in players going overseas for higher wages? Resulting in a poorer quality premier league...

A bit like Cricket and the IPL
 
Bigpig said:
Who's going to pay 10+ million for Carrol now?

His stock is falling fast. should have took Newcastle offer of 14 odd million.
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As far as Im aware Carroll cant move in this window as he has already played for 2 PL clubs which is the maximum per season?
 
rossk26 said:
Will this just result in players going overseas for higher wages? Resulting in a poorer quality premier league...

A bit like Cricket and the IPL
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Probably. If any wage cap was agreed it would have to be international as I net most would go where the money was.

Without having read any links and seen what is proposed the best system is a team wage cap of x amount and then the players have to share that amongst them. Apologies if that's actually one of the proposals :p
 
rossk26 said:
Will this just result in players going overseas for higher wages? Resulting in a poorer quality premier league...

A bit like Cricket and the IPL
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It's still in general the richest league in the world. The Spanish league has lost its tax advantage and apart from Barca + Real they don't have much cash to flash. They might have to move closer to collective bargaining next time in order to survive. Same with all the other leagues really. Bar your psg's etc the pl teams can still compete with the rest of Europe.
 
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It's still in general the richest league in the world. The Spanish league has lost its tax advantage and apart from Barca + Real they don't have much cash to flash. They might have to move closer to collective bargaining next time in order to survive. Same with all the other leagues really. Bar your psg's etc the pl teams can still compete with the rest of Europe.
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exactly - this is where the difference in the tv deals come down to

Barca & Real get about 90% of the Spanish tv money between them (and the remaining 10% is for all the remaining teams) - where as EPL share tv money totally equally.

I think shine's article (or one linked to it) stated that PSG get about 3.5 times what other Ligue 1 teams get, and Bayern get about double the rest of BL teams
 
sweet. i hope it goes through then. looks a promising talent.

the damiao and willlian rumour continues to circle but i just can't see us spend the £30m+ they'd both cost, even if they are comparitively good value for money.

i think gomes has gone back to brazil. if we could shift bentley, jenas and huddlestone then maybe we will spend big.
 
Moses said:
If he's so good, why's he both been allowed to run his contract down to the last six months, and also not had loads of big clubs in for him?
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Why has he been allowed to run his contract down?

Because players do that now days? To force a move?

Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Schalke want to keep him....hardly Wigan looking at him is it? (no offence to Wigan fans :P )
 
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