Jobseekers/Dole/Sausage...

mattyj1085 · 21 Mar 2009 at 08:23

Whatever you want to call it, I am now claiming jobseekers allowance.

I have worked since I have been 16 apart from when in full time education. When in summer breaks and holidays came around I always worked. In the past I have paid a fair amount of emergency tax and tax in general.

I started claiming after I returned from travelling, as soon as I got home I applied for jobs in my skill area (1st/2nd IT Support) I gave it a week after applying for over 15 jobs through the internet and hearing nothing then signed on.

I get the standard £47.95 a week, one thing I dont understand is how it says

'We cannot pay you Jobseekers allowance from 30 August 2009. We cannot pay you because your entitlement based on Class 1 National Insurance Contributions has run out' Presumably this is for the year and not the past 8

What makes me ask, how the **** do scroungers who dont even bother looking for jobs (like that fat family) manage to claim a lot more a week than me if they havent been working for 11 years? Im guessing Jobseekers pay their contributions for them, why?

Glaucus · 21 Mar 2009 at 08:38

No idea. But check your cv and covering letter. This makes a huge difference to the amount of interviews you secure. Before I got mine professionally done I would get an interview about 1 in 200. Since I've had interviews for pretty much every job I've applied for.

Also be worth looking for any job like warehouse work/retail etc It'll give you money and something to do. It also looks good at interviews. When hey ask you what you have been doing for the last 3months.

mattyj1085 · 21 Mar 2009 at 08:41

AcidHell2 said:
No idea. But check your cv and covering letter. This makes a huge difference to the amount of interviews you secure. Before I got mine professionally done I would get an interview about 1 in 200. Since I've had interviews for pretty much every job I've applied for.

Also be worth looking for any job like warehouse work/retail etc It'll give you money and something to do. It also looks good at interviews. When hey ask you what you have been doing for the last 3months.

I could probably go back to a call centre further away from home but it means moving out. Warehouse work is a very last resort as i did it for a few years

I have updated my cv and coving letter. How do you get your CV professionally looked at?

Glaucus · 21 Mar 2009 at 08:42

mattyj1085 said:
I have updated my cv and coving letter. How do you get your CV professionally looked at?

Browse the net and pay about £50. Make sure it is one that you get a refund if you our not happy and one where you can keep sending the draft back for alterations before you accept i.

neil3k · 21 Mar 2009 at 08:43

To be honest i don't really think you should be entitled to JSA either. You left your job to go travelling which is voluntary.

mattyj1085 · 21 Mar 2009 at 08:45

AcidHell2 said:
Browse the net and pay about £50. Make sure it is one that you get a refund if you our not happy and one where you can keep sending the draft back for alterations before you accept i.

What company did you use? (if they are still around) I will have a look but im sure it wont tell you if can can get your money back if you are not happy and carry on sending it back to them on their website homepage!

Glaucus · 21 Mar 2009 at 08:48

http://www.cvcl.co.uk/service.htm

http://www.cvcl.co.uk/MBG.htm

100% Money-Back & 100% Satisfaction Guarantees

We want you to be totally delighted with our professional CV writing service and so we are pleased to offer you two powerful guarantees - a 100% Money-Back Guarantee and a 100% Satisfaction Guarantee.

Under our 100% Satisfaction Guarantee, if you're not 100% happy, we will revise your CV until you are. Simple as that.

Our 100% Money-Back Guarantee gives you additional protection in that if, for any reason whatsoever, at any time before despatch of your completed CV, you decide you just don't want to take your order any further then we'll simply cancel it immediately and refund your money accordingly. No questions asked.

As the UK's Leading CV Consultancy, we are very proud of our reputation and the last thing we want is an unhappy customer.

In placing your order with us, you can rest assured that you are fully protected by both of these guarantees, giving you total peace of mind.

They sorted me out great and I will be using them again when apply for my next job, as it's been a few years and it needs updating.

mattyj1085 · 21 Mar 2009 at 08:48

neil3k said:
To be honest i don't really think you should be entitled to JSA either. You left your job to go travelling which is voluntary.

So ive paid into the system for 8 years and cant claim becasue i want to have a break from work and see the world. I was supposed to be working for a company for 2 weeks which turned into over 1 year before i went. I had always told them i was going travelling

With answers like that you annoy me almost as much as people people who claim dole for 10 years without making much effort to work

mattyj1085 · 21 Mar 2009 at 08:49

AcidHell2 said:
http://www.cvcl.co.uk/service.htm

thanks, will use my first payment for this. (A far more productive answer than neils)

Richdog · 21 Mar 2009 at 08:53

mattyj1085 said:
I started claiming after I returned from travelling, as soon as I got home I applied for jobs in my skill area (1st/2nd IT Support) I gave it a week after applying for over 15 jobs through the internet and hearing nothing then signed on.

To be honest mate that's a pretty feeble attempt at job-hunting. You should be physically visiting all viable companies in your area to ask about available positions personally, and when you do apply on the internet you should be following up every application with a call to the recruitment agency professing your interest in the position and asking some pertinent questions about the role. That's the only way you will get noticed from any other faceless norman sending in their CV.

Mucky_Pup · 21 Mar 2009 at 09:01

mattyj1085 said:
What makes me ask, how the **** do scroungers who dont even bother looking for jobs (like that fat family) manage to claim a lot more a week than me if they havent been working for 11 years? Im guessing Jobseekers pay their contributions for them, why?

Because we live in a crap country, which our government decides to reward failure and non-trying and punish hard work and success, it really is that simple an answer.

neil3k · 21 Mar 2009 at 09:05

mattyj1085 said:
So ive paid into the system for 8 years and cant claim becasue i want to have a break from work and see the world. I was supposed to be working for a company for 2 weeks which turned into over 1 year before i went. I had always told them i was going travelling

With answers like that you annoy me almost as much as people people who claim dole for 10 years without making much effort to work

Thats the risk you take when you go travelling that when you come back you won't be able to find a job. Good luck with the job hunt anyway. I hope you find something

Wiggins · 21 Mar 2009 at 09:13

They pay you Contribution Based Job Seekers Allowance for six months, after which if you then carry on, you then get Income Based Job Seekers Allowance.

The first six months is based on you're own National Insurance Contributions and then after that, the government then pay you're National Insurance stamp.

If and when you claim for the Income Based one and you have a partner working over 24hrs a week, you are screwed and they pay you nothing. Goes to show the working class get shafted and the scroungers get minted.

mattyj1085 · 21 Mar 2009 at 09:17

I also looked into working in australia / canada. Mining was a possibility but i looked further into it and its not as easy as 2 years ago. I have rang a few places too (not just internet search)

Ceryndrion · 21 Mar 2009 at 11:45

Step 1: Never post about being unemployed on a forum filled with elitest pricks who all have super-duper jobs with no chance whatsoever of ever being made redundant etc.

Step 2: If you do decide to place your head in the lions mouth, do not expect to get anything other than ridicule for your trouble.

Step 3: Remember that this is GD, and bring a hardhat.

helpimcrap · 21 Mar 2009 at 11:53

people who think they're entitled to something for nothing (as if the world owes them something) will always look for alternatives to sponge.

i've been on sick for last 9 months and i'd go work in a heartbeat. my managers asked me a couple of weeks ago when i'd feel ok to start and i said 'give me time to get changed then i'm ready'.

Von Smallhausen · 21 Mar 2009 at 11:57

I have been very lucky.

I left school in the early 1990s when a recession was on and the northe east is an unemployment blackspot now as it was then.

I managed to get straight into work and have not claimed a penny from the state and I hope never to do so.

Mr C · 21 Mar 2009 at 12:26

I claimed jobseekers while i had some trouble finding a job after travelling. I never had a more frustrating experience in my life when they screwed everything up not long before i started my new job.

Someone screwed up the forms for one of the jobseekers interviews which in then caused them to shut down my claim for not turning up to the interview even though i was there they just decided to fail at noting it down. (This was after 2 cancellations since the person who was supposed to do the interview wasn't there.)

I then had to make a "rapid reclaim" which was anything but rapid, i couldn't visit the appointment to confirm my new claim as i started a full time job on the same day, i was told to mail them the forms.

It took them 2 months to process the forms (october-december) and since then they decided to mail them back to me asking me to fill out another form, another month later and i recive the forms back again asking me to fill out a "reason for delay of claim form" the delay being that it takes them 2 months to process my forms.......

Finally in Febuary i get a letter saying that i get nothing due to a lack of excuse for the delay. The jobcentre and the entire service is a complete failure and i hope to never have to use it again. Especially since i'm never going to see that £200 i was entitled to but never given thanks to an entire list of mistakes by them.

The only thing i would hope for is to find a job before they manage to screw everything up.

Dark_Angel · 21 Mar 2009 at 12:47

Ceryndrion said:
Step 1: Never post about being unemployed on a forum filled with elitest pricks who all have super-duper jobs with no chance whatsoever of ever being made redundant etc.

Step 2: If you do decide to place your head in the lions mouth, do not expect to get anything other than ridicule for your trouble.

Step 3: Remember that this is GD, and bring a hardhat.

Step 4: ???

Step 5: Profit?

Seriously though best off contacting Jobseekers I guess, can't be of any serious advice.

mattyj1085 · 21 Mar 2009 at 13:08

Ceryndrion said:
Step 1: Never post about being unemployed on a forum filled with elitest pricks who all have super-duper jobs with no chance whatsoever of ever being made redundant etc.

A few of my mates have had good jobs (not super duper but good) They were on around 31k and working in the company for 5 years. They've been made redundant last week
Same goes for my auntie a few months ago, she went from being managing director of an estate agents to a shares call centre (not at the same place but a supervisor on bette pay) She tried to claim jobseekers the few weeks she was out of work and wasnt even entitled to it! (Even though she was on highest tax bracket)

Bet most of the 'elitest pricks' on here would think differently if you were made redundant tomorrow